No competition, why only HWlabs? - Page 11

mad mikee · 05-25-2005, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marci

Along the bottom, literally, would work. IE: Cut 160x160 hole in base of case, mount radiator flat against hole. Shroud on top of radiator, with fan pulling air in thru the base... the wheels of the V series give it enough standoff to allow sufficient airflow.

Now if I can get one or 2 of these and mount my 150mm papst (draw, 5-7V)on a 1" shroud....

Risky · 05-26-2005, 09:21 AM

I'm thinking about cases for this rad. I wonder if it would fit in the lower section of a Stacker with an intake underneath (would have to add castors). I'm being obsessive about not loosing drivebays.

Marci · 05-26-2005, 09:51 AM

Yes to the stacker question above, and it defo fits peachy in a LianLi PC60 with VERY minor modifications required (3 lines to cut with a jigsaw / dremel / hacksaw, 6 holes to drill).

However, in a PC60 it leaves you with only 5.25" bays (ie: 2x optical drives, 2x HDDs in 3.5 > 5.25 adapters, 1x Matrix Orbital in front of one HDD, 1x FanBus in front of the other...)

Will post modification guide and parts required etc within next few days...

[-Stash-] · 05-26-2005, 10:56 AM

That would be much appreciated Marci. Please post a link to the thread in here. Thanks

Edit: typo

Razor6 · 05-26-2005, 04:07 PM

In response to the remarks on plastic tanks in the DDC failure thread. Personally, I wouldn't care if the tanks were plastic if the price fell at or below a BIX. I wouldn't expect most people to care either since it would be a better product at the same or better price.

gazorp · 05-27-2005, 01:35 AM

those rads look nice!

Cyprio · 06-01-2005, 04:05 PM

Just bought one of these - great construction quality, very nice rad.
I am currently looking at a new case too so will eagerly await any pics of other guys installs...

I have thought both about a new Lian Li with a 120mm front intake. OR a V-1100 and having the rad on the base as Marci described. I am slightly worried about dust buildup though in that setup.

Any comments on that?

Marci · 06-02-2005, 03:58 AM

Just get some decent opencell foam and place it between rad and case to act as a dustfilter... or a pair of old tights / stockings...

Have done the PC60 install now that I've bought a new dremel (burnt the last one out after many years of use), just waiting for digicam batteries to charge and I'll post up the worklog(ish)

Marci · 06-02-2005, 05:51 AM

Guide done and posted - http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...378#post141378

[-Stash-] · 06-02-2005, 06:19 AM

Excellent, can't wait. I've just purchased a £4.99 case to dump my hardware in temporarily aircooled so I can clean out the old cooling loop and get some new parts for it.

Marci · 06-02-2005, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Just bought one of these - great construction quality, very nice rad.
I am currently looking at a new case too so will eagerly await any pics of other guys installs...

I have thought both about a new Lian Li with a 120mm front intake. OR a V-1100 and having the rad on the base as Marci described. I am slightly worried about dust buildup though in that setup.

Any comments on that?

Good thread on mounting here: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=378300

Cyprio · 06-02-2005, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marci

Good thread on mounting here: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=378300

Thats my thread Marci! LOL. I should stick to the simple nick i guess.

Does that look OK? Do you have any suggestions to which of the two ways i mount it?
Ta.

Marci · 06-02-2005, 10:35 AM

On the base sucking up thru the floor venting out the front would be my preference.

Cyprio · 06-02-2005, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marci

On the base sucking up thru the floor venting out the front would be my preference.

Yeah, that was my thought too. I will post pics when i get stuff ready. Currently writing up PhD thesis wso this probably wont be till after hand in - 24th June!

Ps Will over-clock be selling the mounting kit?

Cyprio · 06-02-2005, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marci

On the base sucking up thru the floor venting out the front would be my preference.

Yeah, that was my thought too. I will post pics when i get stuff ready. Currently writing up PhD thesis wso this probably wont be till after hand in - 24th June!

Ps Will over-clock be selling the mounting kit? Not sure how else to secure it to the base of the case.

Marci · 06-02-2005, 10:56 AM

http://store.over-clock.com/ThermoChill.html#a326

Ruiner · 06-02-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marci

On the base sucking up thru the floor venting out the front would be my preference.

Unless you have a cat....trust me on this one.

Cyprio · 06-02-2005, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruiner

Unless you have a cat....trust me on this one.

Hehe - no feline hairs around.

bobkoure · 06-02-2005, 05:28 PM

Hmmm...
Sounds like some sort of periodic reminder to remove the accumulated cat hairs, including a hair-ball-upchuck audio track might be just the ticket

Marci · 06-03-2005, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Unless you have a cat....trust me on this one

Tesla Coils...

Cyprio · 06-06-2005, 07:13 AM

Just recieved the V1100 today.

Its much dinkier than i expected, the P160 will be a tight fit!
Will post pics as i start work on the case...

Cyprio · 06-07-2005, 07:49 AM

EDITED: Made new thread as realised this is probably not the best place to start posting pics.

bobkoure · 06-07-2005, 10:24 AM

moved to same separate thread (good idea!)

Lothar5150 · 06-27-2005, 11:33 PM

Cathar,

You asked me to address this in Pro Forums so I am.

Let me restate the question for you. You created a radiator with a core surface area approximately 10% greater than a Chevette heater core. Your data shows that you get 15%-30% better performance that a Chevette heater core.

A) Is that not predictable given the relationship between surface are and heat dissipation?
B) I am asking honestly, what is the break thru? :shrug:

Long Haired Git · 06-28-2005, 05:52 AM

Performance is not linear to surface area.
Check out BillA's http://thermal-management-testing.com/ThermoChill.htm.

HE120.1: c/w = 0.039
HE120.2: c/w = 0.024

You'd expect twice the performance from twice the SA, but you'd not get a C/W of 0.195, you'd only get 0.024.

So, a 15% to 30% improvement from only a 10% increase in SA is none too shabby.

A 120.2/BA sized core with the FPI and tube count Cathar proposes would show a true comparison, but then you'd also need to take noise into consideration...

05-26-2005, 09:51 AM	#253
Marci Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 486	Yes to the stacker question above, and it defo fits peachy in a LianLi PC60 with VERY minor modifications required (3 lines to cut with a jigsaw / dremel / hacksaw, 6 holes to drill). However, in a PC60 it leaves you with only 5.25" bays (ie: 2x optical drives, 2x HDDs in 3.5 > 5.25 adapters, 1x Matrix Orbital in front of one HDD, 1x FanBus in front of the other...) Will post modification guide and parts required etc within next few days... __________________ www.minimotosidecars.org / www.thermochill.com / www.themusiccollective.co.uk

05-26-2005, 10:56 AM	#254
[-Stash-] Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kent, England Posts: 24	That would be much appreciated Marci. Please post a link to the thread in here. Thanks Edit: typo __________________ [-Stash-] ---------------------------------- XP-M 2500+ (2.5GHz @200FSB), DFI Infinity NFII Ultra 2512 Ballistix 3200, 6800GT 410/1100 WD740GD, 2120 SATA Maxtor 6Y120M0, NEC ND2500A (external) Eheim 1250, DD Maze3, Heater Core, 1/2" Tygon Last edited by [-Stash-]; 05-26-2005 at 12:37 PM.

06-01-2005, 04:05 PM	#257
Cyprio Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 47	Just bought one of these - great construction quality, very nice rad. I am currently looking at a new case too so will eagerly await any pics of other guys installs... I have thought both about a new Lian Li with a 120mm front intake. OR a V-1100 and having the rad on the base as Marci described. I am slightly worried about dust buildup though in that setup. Any comments on that? __________________ ::BR:: - A Gaming Community www.brclan.co.uk

06-02-2005, 03:58 AM	#258
Marci Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 486	Just get some decent opencell foam and place it between rad and case to act as a dustfilter... or a pair of old tights / stockings... Have done the PC60 install now that I've bought a new dremel (burnt the last one out after many years of use), just waiting for digicam batteries to charge and I'll post up the worklog(ish) __________________ www.minimotosidecars.org / www.thermochill.com / www.themusiccollective.co.uk

06-02-2005, 05:51 AM	#259
Marci Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 486	Guide done and posted - http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...378#post141378 __________________ www.minimotosidecars.org / www.thermochill.com / www.themusiccollective.co.uk

05-26-2005, 09:21 AM	#252
Risky Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London Posts: 96	I'm thinking about cases for this rad. I wonder if it would fit in the lower section of a Stacker with an intake underneath (would have to add castors). I'm being obsessive about not loosing drivebays.

05-26-2005, 04:07 PM	#255
Razor6 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 192	In response to the remarks on plastic tanks in the DDC failure thread. Personally, I wouldn't care if the tanks were plastic if the price fell at or below a BIX. I wouldn't expect most people to care either since it would be a better product at the same or better price.

05-27-2005, 01:35 AM	#256
gazorp Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: florida Posts: 42	those rads look nice!

06-02-2005, 06:19 AM	#260
[-Stash-] Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kent, England Posts: 24	Excellent, can't wait. I've just purchased a £4.99 case to dump my hardware in temporarily aircooled so I can clean out the old cooling loop and get some new parts for it. __________________ [-Stash-] ---------------------------------- XP-M 2500+ (2.5GHz @200FSB), DFI Infinity NFII Ultra 2512 Ballistix 3200, 6800GT 410/1100 WD740GD, 2120 SATA Maxtor 6Y120M0, NEC ND2500A (external) Eheim 1250, DD Maze3, Heater Core, 1/2" Tygon

06-02-2005, 10:35 AM	#263
Marci Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 486	On the base sucking up thru the floor venting out the front would be my preference. __________________ www.minimotosidecars.org / www.thermochill.com / www.themusiccollective.co.uk

06-02-2005, 10:56 AM	#266
Marci Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 486	http://store.over-clock.com/ThermoChill.html#a326 __________________ www.minimotosidecars.org / www.thermochill.com / www.themusiccollective.co.uk

06-02-2005, 05:28 PM	#269
bobkoure Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA - Boston area Posts: 798	Hmmm... Sounds like some sort of periodic reminder to remove the accumulated cat hairs, including a hair-ball-upchuck audio track might be just the ticket

06-06-2005, 07:13 AM	#271
Cyprio Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 47	Just recieved the V1100 today. Its much dinkier than i expected, the P160 will be a tight fit! Will post pics as i start work on the case... __________________ ::BR:: - A Gaming Community www.brclan.co.uk

06-07-2005, 07:49 AM	#272
Cyprio Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 47	EDITED: Made new thread as realised this is probably not the best place to start posting pics. __________________ ::BR:: - A Gaming Community www.brclan.co.uk Last edited by Cyprio; 06-07-2005 at 10:12 AM.

06-07-2005, 10:24 AM	#273
bobkoure Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA - Boston area Posts: 798	moved to same separate thread (good idea!) Last edited by bobkoure; 06-07-2005 at 10:30 AM. Reason: move to separate thread

06-27-2005, 11:33 PM	#274
Lothar5150 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Surf City USA Posts: 433	Cathar, You asked me to address this in Pro Forums so I am. Let me restate the question for you. You created a radiator with a core surface area approximately 10% greater than a Chevette heater core. Your data shows that you get 15%-30% better performance that a Chevette heater core. A) Is that not predictable given the relationship between surface are and heat dissipation? B) I am asking honestly, what is the break thru? :shrug: Last edited by Lothar5150; 06-28-2005 at 11:16 AM.

06-28-2005, 05:52 AM	#275
Long Haired Git Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sydney, Oz Posts: 336	Performance is not linear to surface area. Check out BillA's http://thermal-management-testing.com/ThermoChill.htm. HE120.1: c/w = 0.039 HE120.2: c/w = 0.024 You'd expect twice the performance from twice the SA, but you'd not get a C/W of 0.195, you'd only get 0.024. So, a 15% to 30% improvement from only a 10% increase in SA is none too shabby. A 120.2/BA sized core with the FPI and tube count Cathar proposes would show a true comparison, but then you'd also need to take noise into consideration... __________________ Long Haired Git "Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted." (Prof. Gene Spafford) My Rig, in all its glory, can be seen best here AMD XP1600 @ 1530 Mhz \| Soyo Dragon + \| 256 Mb PC2700 DDRAM \| 2 x 40 Gb 7200rpm in Raid-0 \| Maze 2, eheim 1250, dual heater cores! \| Full specifications (PCDB)

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