Pelt cooling your Northbridge. - Page 2

Balinju · 05-20-2003, 05:08 PM

yes he is, this is his web page.

visit his web page and you will see how his blocks are made

bigben2k · 05-20-2003, 05:30 PM

I have a DD z-chip block, sitting right here next to me. If you need some dimensions, let me know: I'd be more than happy to strip it apart for you

Balinju · 05-20-2003, 05:44 PM

ben, could you take a z block from dd and drill some dimplets in it to increase performace?? or would it decrease performace??

i think dimplets = turbulance therefore better performance

where i am mistaken? :shrug:

qwerty57 · 05-20-2003, 05:46 PM

first off alot of things come into play when you go for high speed/lower voltages..

yes a 60w or maybe even 40w tec could cool a reg. NB, but then you have the NF2 chipset which IM on.. the thing at 2v VDD and high DC fsb can roast an egg with the stock cooling. after strait h20 cooling the NB voltage still needed to be the same to run the fsb in DC mode same as stock. so I added a 12v 80w pelt at 7v and got temps around 5-10c and voltage needed for max oc dropped some from 2.05v to 1.95v, but I still wasn't happy so I ran the tec at 13v and was able to run the voltage at only 1.73v thus lowering overall temp's even more at load. Im now at -13c load and thats amazing.. I can't really say how I did the pelt setup yet as I have someone looking over the way i did it for maybe a new NB retail block.

Balinju · 05-20-2003, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by qwerty57
can roast an egg with the stock cooling

lol

bigben2k · 05-20-2003, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Balinju
ben, could you take a z block from dd and drill some dimplets in it to increase performace?? or would it decrease performace??

i think dimplets = turbulance therefore better performance

where i am mistaken? :shrug:

I'd have to measure the bp thickness, but otherwise it might help, a little bit. Not sure it's worth the trouble though.

Balinju · 05-20-2003, 05:57 PM

sparkedfire here is a link to a thread, the first pic shows a nb #rotor sytle block done my puzzdre. it is a good example

SparkedFire · 05-21-2003, 06:57 AM

Hey bigben2k i would appreciate it if you could get mt the dimentions of the DD Z block!

. Hey it looks like the MOBO_chipset_10mm_TURB_CUCU could work for a pelt? I'd love to get my hands on Puzdree's NB block

. It could be fitted with a cold plate.

bigben2k · 05-21-2003, 02:38 PM

The copper base of the block is 44mm by 38mm. You wouldn't be able to fit a 40x40 pelt, but if you get one that's 30 by 30, it'll fit nicely.

Do you want more dimensions?

SparkedFire · 05-21-2003, 02:44 PM

Hey thanks bigben2k!

No that will do. Yea i guess your right, a 30mmx30mm pelt would work. Its just off to find one now. I guess i will go back and check out those links i posted.

bigben2k · 05-21-2003, 02:55 PM

If it's any help, the holes in the block (to hold the top) are threaded right through, so you can bolt your spacer/coldplate using those.

SparkedFire · 05-21-2003, 03:29 PM

Here is another Link. Thanks that would help in deciding how to hook up the cold plate. I think i wiil buy the DD Z nb wb after all. I will post with the pelt i would like to use so you guys may further guide me.

qwerty57 · 05-21-2003, 03:29 PM

I use the z-block with a 40x40 pelt and it works awsome. Ill try and grab some pic's to show you how I did it.. with coldplate and without modding the block at all..

SparkedFire · 05-21-2003, 03:31 PM

hey thanks qwerty, i admit it would be much easier to use a 40mm x 40mm pelt. I look forward to your pics!

SparkedFire · 05-21-2003, 03:36 PM

OK with moddig i would most likely use this pelt. HP-127-1.0-0.8. It is a 30mm x 30mm pelt, consumes 56w, and would hit its "sweet spot" at about 12v.

qwerty57 · 05-21-2003, 03:47 PM

well my pelt 80w at 12.4v with 7c chilled h20 get load temp's like Isaid at -10 to -13c with room temp h20 around freezing 0c to 2c so im sure you can get the 56w with 20c ambeit temps to about 10c on a NF2 mobo. I suspect about 20-30w of heat at 2v vdd on the nf2.. I would still go for a 80w tec for extreme situations, but you installing this on whaT MOBO?? intel or AMD??

SparkedFire · 05-21-2003, 03:52 PM

This would go on an Intel mobo, 845 chipset. The 80w pelt would be prefered then to get temps around freezing, which is why id do this in the first place. The colder the better

!

qwerty57 · 05-21-2003, 03:59 PM

well im in florida also, so if your ambeint temps are lower then the colder you temp's will run... rememebr you can drop 20c just from going from say 24c h20 temps to chilled 5c temp's

also does the intel NB run hot?? Never owned an intel

SparkedFire · 05-21-2003, 04:02 PM

Im in florida too, orlando. I'm not sure if it gets hot or not, the heatsink does come with a fan. I will try to remove the fan and see if i can feel some warmth in a second.

SparkedFire · 05-21-2003, 04:10 PM

Yea it does put off some heat. I did feel a noticable warmth even after it took the fan off for a sec. I am not sure exactly how warm it is thoe.

qwerty57 · 05-21-2003, 04:14 PM

well on my 8rda epox nb It got so hot stock with no fan that I burnt my finger..

SparkedFire · 05-21-2003, 04:15 PM

Damn.

bigben2k · 05-21-2003, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by qwerty57
I use the z-block with a 40x40 pelt and it works awsome. Ill try and grab some pic's to show you how I did it.. with coldplate and without modding the block at all..

I'd like to see that too!

jtroutma · 05-22-2003, 11:25 AM

SparkedFire:

I have a 36W (30mmX30mm I think) pelt that is just collecting dust over here. I would be willing to donate it to the cause if you want

I used it for a while when I tried to pelt cool my own NB (VIA KT133A) I had some decent success but it was overshadowed by the fact that I fired 2 motherboards in the process. (I was careless with condensation prohibitors).

My advise would be to make sure that you have very good insulation on both the front and the back of the MB (treat it like you are freezing your CPU!) and have a very good water flowrate through the block that will be cooling the pelt.

PM me know if you are interested.

SparkedFire · 05-22-2003, 01:57 PM

Hey thanks, jtroutma I sent you a PM.

Hey qwerty57, were you able to get some pics?

I think i know how you did it. Did you attach "ledges" to the side of the NB block, and attach a cold plate to that? Confused?

05-20-2003, 05:08 PM	#26
Balinju Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 495	yes he is, this is his web page. visit his web page and you will see how his blocks are made __________________ So the bullet proof vest aint a $hit when d laser is pointed to your head Kid

05-20-2003, 05:30 PM	#27
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	I have a DD z-chip block, sitting right here next to me. If you need some dimensions, let me know: I'd be more than happy to strip it apart for you __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

05-20-2003, 05:44 PM	#28
Balinju Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 495	ben, could you take a z block from dd and drill some dimplets in it to increase performace?? or would it decrease performace?? i think dimplets = turbulance therefore better performance where i am mistaken? :shrug: __________________ So the bullet proof vest aint a $hit when d laser is pointed to your head Kid

05-20-2003, 05:57 PM	#32
Balinju Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 495	sparkedfire here is a link to a thread, the first pic shows a nb #rotor sytle block done my puzzdre. it is a good example __________________ So the bullet proof vest aint a $hit when d laser is pointed to your head Kid

05-21-2003, 06:57 AM	#33
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	Hey bigben2k i would appreciate it if you could get mt the dimentions of the DD Z block! . Hey it looks like the MOBO_chipset_10mm_TURB_CUCU could work for a pelt? I'd love to get my hands on Puzdree's NB block . It could be fitted with a cold plate. __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

05-20-2003, 05:46 PM	#29
qwerty57 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hollywood, fl Posts: 40	first off alot of things come into play when you go for high speed/lower voltages.. yes a 60w or maybe even 40w tec could cool a reg. NB, but then you have the NF2 chipset which IM on.. the thing at 2v VDD and high DC fsb can roast an egg with the stock cooling. after strait h20 cooling the NB voltage still needed to be the same to run the fsb in DC mode same as stock. so I added a 12v 80w pelt at 7v and got temps around 5-10c and voltage needed for max oc dropped some from 2.05v to 1.95v, but I still wasn't happy so I ran the tec at 13v and was able to run the voltage at only 1.73v thus lowering overall temp's even more at load. Im now at -13c load and thats amazing.. I can't really say how I did the pelt setup yet as I have someone looking over the way i did it for maybe a new NB retail block.

05-21-2003, 02:38 PM	#34
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	The copper base of the block is 44mm by 38mm. You wouldn't be able to fit a 40x40 pelt, but if you get one that's 30 by 30, it'll fit nicely. Do you want more dimensions? __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

05-21-2003, 02:44 PM	#35
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	Hey thanks bigben2k! No that will do. Yea i guess your right, a 30mmx30mm pelt would work. Its just off to find one now. I guess i will go back and check out those links i posted. __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

05-21-2003, 02:55 PM	#36
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	If it's any help, the holes in the block (to hold the top) are threaded right through, so you can bolt your spacer/coldplate using those. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

05-21-2003, 03:29 PM	#37
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	Here is another Link. Thanks that would help in deciding how to hook up the cold plate. I think i wiil buy the DD Z nb wb after all. I will post with the pelt i would like to use so you guys may further guide me. __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

05-21-2003, 03:31 PM	#39
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	hey thanks qwerty, i admit it would be much easier to use a 40mm x 40mm pelt. I look forward to your pics! __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

05-21-2003, 03:36 PM	#40
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	OK with moddig i would most likely use this pelt. HP-127-1.0-0.8. It is a 30mm x 30mm pelt, consumes 56w, and would hit its "sweet spot" at about 12v. __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

05-21-2003, 03:47 PM	#41
qwerty57 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hollywood, fl Posts: 40	well my pelt 80w at 12.4v with 7c chilled h20 get load temp's like Isaid at -10 to -13c with room temp h20 around freezing 0c to 2c so im sure you can get the 56w with 20c ambeit temps to about 10c on a NF2 mobo. I suspect about 20-30w of heat at 2v vdd on the nf2.. I would still go for a 80w tec for extreme situations, but you installing this on whaT MOBO?? intel or AMD??

05-21-2003, 03:52 PM	#42
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	This would go on an Intel mobo, 845 chipset. The 80w pelt would be prefered then to get temps around freezing, which is why id do this in the first place. The colder the better ! __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

05-21-2003, 03:59 PM	#43
qwerty57 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hollywood, fl Posts: 40	well im in florida also, so if your ambeint temps are lower then the colder you temp's will run... rememebr you can drop 20c just from going from say 24c h20 temps to chilled 5c temp's also does the intel NB run hot?? Never owned an intel

05-21-2003, 04:02 PM	#44
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	Im in florida too, orlando. I'm not sure if it gets hot or not, the heatsink does come with a fan. I will try to remove the fan and see if i can feel some warmth in a second. __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

05-21-2003, 04:10 PM	#45
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	Yea it does put off some heat. I did feel a noticable warmth even after it took the fan off for a sec. I am not sure exactly how warm it is thoe. __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

05-21-2003, 04:14 PM	#46
qwerty57 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hollywood, fl Posts: 40	well on my 8rda epox nb It got so hot stock with no fan that I burnt my finger..

05-21-2003, 04:15 PM	#47
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	Damn. __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

05-22-2003, 11:25 AM	#49
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	SparkedFire: I have a 36W (30mmX30mm I think) pelt that is just collecting dust over here. I would be willing to donate it to the cause if you want I used it for a while when I tried to pelt cool my own NB (VIA KT133A) I had some decent success but it was overshadowed by the fact that I fired 2 motherboards in the process. (I was careless with condensation prohibitors). My advise would be to make sure that you have very good insulation on both the front and the back of the MB (treat it like you are freezing your CPU!) and have a very good water flowrate through the block that will be cooling the pelt. PM me know if you are interested. __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

05-22-2003, 01:57 PM	#50
SparkedFire Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Matrix Posts: 114	Hey thanks, jtroutma I sent you a PM. Hey qwerty57, were you able to get some pics? I think i know how you did it. Did you attach "ledges" to the side of the NB block, and attach a cold plate to that? Confused? __________________ If you smell something odd coming from your puter, panic and run crazy. Shut her down and grab a towel. As to watercooling going mainstream: We are truely dedicated to it, we know everything, and we have perfected it.

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