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Yes, I will make a DIY block. 122 82.99%
No, cheaper and easier to buy a good commercial block. 25 17.01%
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Unread 07-25-2004, 09:22 PM   #1
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I am pondering writing a DIY guide to making a water block similar to my Type-R block that pH will sooner or later publish a review on. I used my mill to make that block but I will make a similar version on my drill press and take pics as I go and write an article for pH to post here. Question I have is it worth my time to do so?
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Unread 07-25-2004, 09:28 PM   #2
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I'm very interested in making my own blocks. Right now, I'm focusing on plans for a gpu and nb block since cpus seem done to death.

I'm saving for a milling machine right now (I just don't think my drill press will really cut it) and I have autocad 2005 (for work) so I'm getting there.
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I would, if I could do it with a drill press and dremel.
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Unread 07-25-2004, 09:41 PM   #4
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in fact, I want to mill a GPU block (very free flowing)
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I'd like to know what the best style of gpu block is -- high or low restriction. I've got both a 9800XT and a PRO (and hopefully an X800 one of these days.)
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best style?

compromise....high restriction designs can be cooler, but hurt overall flow (resulting in higher CPU temps) low restriction makes for higher GPU, lower CPU
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I just got the cnc running better than ever, already made 4 baseplates and a top for these bases, took a .1" pass in copper with a .25" EM with flood coolant and its rockin! hopefully be making tons of blocks in the near future


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I would, if I could do it with a drill press and dremel.
Might not even need a dremel. I already did a prototype on my drill press I was going to use for this article but as I was making it I came up with a few better ways to do it. One was possible eliminating the dremel. JFettig gave me a few idea on how to do this and I am trying to expand on them.

If this article is written and succeful it might lead to more DIY articles such as soldering barbs on a heater core and what not. Probably stuff that can be found elswhere but I see no reason to not have a actual ProCooling article on this stuff.

With some of pH articles we can probably come up with a decent and fairly easy to assemble DIY system.
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dang, just looked at test numbers on the r-type...

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pretty close to a d-tek WW...would be nice to get a block of copper for a couple bux and sell my WW.

any idea on restrictiveness compared to a WW?
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dang, just looked at test numbers on the r-type...

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pretty close to a d-tek WW...would be nice to get a block of copper for a couple bux and sell my WW.

any idea on restrictiveness compared to a WW?
Should be less restrictive. Only 2 barbs awell so no Y adapter needed.
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link to pics of internals of r-type vs lumpy channel? not sure I understand the differences...
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link to pics of internals of r-type vs lumpy channel? not sure I understand the differences...
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I still remenber one certain individual that told me:

"you drilled a couple holes in a peice of copper and you call yourself a expert"

hehehe...

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so the r-type is a lumpy channel with the space between pins cut out

nice

tough to get a good o-ring channel with a drill press
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so the r-type is a lumpy channel with the space between pins cut out

nice

tough to get a good o-ring channel with a drill press
Won't need an O-Ring. RTV silicone will work fine. Been using it for years on blocks and has yet to fail. In fact the barbs on the Lumpy Channel blocks pH tested were sealed with clear RTV silicone. Or being it is all copper one can solder it if they feel up to it.

The R-Type also has a thicker base and the pins are taller than the channels on the LC. The thicker base made most of the difference I belive. I am going to make a modified LC with a thicker base and taller channels and send it to pH sooner or later to back this up.
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I think that there would be quite a few people interested in a writeup from you JayDee.

Also send me a blurb about the R-type block and I'll get that review posted
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I think that there would be quite a few people interested in a writeup from you JayDee.

Also send me a blurb about the R-type block and I'll get that review posted
I am now pondering doing a DIY vrs. Commercial block article first. Pro's and Con's of both. With the introduction of the MCW6000/2 it is not as easy of a choice. Certainly a valid argument for going commercial. I will think about this on the plane to Texas tomorrow.

You got PM on the R-Type info.
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Originally Posted by jaydee116
I am pondering writing a DIY guide to making a water block similar to my Type-R block that pH will sooner or later publish a review on. I used my mill to make that block but I will make a similar version on my drill press and take pics as I go and write an article for pH to post here. Question I have is it worth my time to do so?

I think it is Meg Ryan in the famous restaurant scene in "When Harry met Sally":
"Yes, YES, YES!!!"

I would appreciate such an article.
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I would read your guide with interest and thanks. Not to follow the recipe but to add the techniques presented, to my own toolbox.
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I think it is Meg Ryan in the famous restaurant scene in "When Harry met Sally":
"Yes, YES, YES!!!"

I would appreciate such an article.
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Hmmmm... there is a certain amount of ambiguity when you use that quote, ya know. She was faking that enthusiasm.
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JayDee I am stealing those images for use in my review. My photography skills are already known to be shitty.
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It's awesome work on your part but I just can't have anything to do with anything labeled "R-Type" it goes against my moral fiber.
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JayDee I am stealing those images for use in my review. My photography skills are already known to be shitty.
They are the only 2 I have so go for it.

I will name the DIY version something different.


Just got the the hotel in Texas after waking up a 3am at home in Spokane, flying to Salt lake City for an hour layover, flying into Dallas/Ft. Worth, going to jobsite and working 4 hours. I am a little tired but I did get started in the article about DIY vs. Commercial blocks on the plane. Once I get a rough draft I will run it by pH and get his comments.

Whenever I get home from this trip (2 weeks most likely) I can start on the DIY block and make the article up. I am going to make a drawing of the base for you guys to use as a template for the drilling and another drawing for the top. I will save it in .dxf format and hopefully that free CAD program JFettig found will open it so you can print it to scale (if you don't have a CAD program anyway).
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Hmmmm... there is a certain amount of ambiguity when you use that quote, ya know. She was faking that enthusiasm.
Darn, outwitted again...
Well, there are some diffrences between me and Meg Ryan (trust me on this one).

BTW, R-Type? Did I miss where that name came from? I bet it´s allready been explained, but I can´t recall.

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