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12-09-2004, 05:52 PM | #201 | |
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12-09-2004, 05:58 PM | #203 | |
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12-09-2004, 10:05 PM | #204 | |
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The AquaExtreme/MCP600 has a bit of an edge on the DDC, but the more stuff you have in your loop, the more this margin narrows (the DDC is a better pump for very restrictive systems than the MCP600), so I suppose if you had a 1/2" ID system and a basic CPU block/radiator setup, the MCP600 would be the way to go, but if you have more in your loop, ie, chipset block, GPU block, multiple rads (and additional tubing that comes with it), the DDC gets the edge. It's a good pump for running everything in series instead of having to use Y fittings to run blocks in parallel. Also consider that it's supposedly quieter (I haven't heard the DDC in person yet, though previously in the thread it's been called 'inaudible') and considerably smaller. The DDC is designed for a 3/8" ID system, which is more restrictive by nature, but the benefit of that is higher fluid velocity, which is important for newer block designs like the MCW6000. It depends upon your system really. For me, a quieter, smaller pump with MASSIVE head is the way to go, but I have a Storm block, MCW50 and transmission cooler that's going to get replaced by a 16"x16" copper radiator. Check out Overclocker's waterblock list for the headloss of your block(s) and you can get a rough idea of which pump would be better, though don't expect either to work miracles for your temps. What temperature difference there is between the two pumps will be marginal. Last edited by JWFokker; 12-09-2004 at 10:11 PM. |
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12-17-2004, 10:45 AM | #205 |
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I was wondering if anyone knew if the pro version of the DDC pump was going to be sold in the US or if I need to get it out of Germany?
Instantly available are the new Laing DDC pumps. They convince due to its high performance, i.e. to its unbelievable lifting heigt of 3,7 meters. Its compact design enables the mounting into almost every place of your case. Further informations and obtainable at Laing pumps. New: The Pro-Version with Plexicover! 10.12.2004 |
12-17-2004, 11:15 AM | #206 |
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the DDC is by Laing
plexi by alphacool, what does it do ? |
12-17-2004, 11:28 AM | #207 |
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Looks purdy...............I'm into modding also................
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12-17-2004, 11:37 AM | #208 |
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head off to alphacool, its their product
have a link to a description ? |
12-17-2004, 11:39 AM | #209 | |
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12-17-2004, 11:54 AM | #210 |
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but the bling Scott, the blingnedness of it
makes it bigger too (bling + bigger = more bling !) |
12-17-2004, 12:11 PM | #211 | |
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12-17-2004, 12:20 PM | #212 |
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"blingafide"
good, good |
12-17-2004, 12:40 PM | #213 |
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if lang offerd a new top with 1/2 barbs (with or without bling/lights/buzzers/flags)
id have 1 in a second
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12-17-2004, 12:55 PM | #214 |
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and I imagine you would have company
all making an uninformed choice, bigger barbs do not equate to more flow - just bigger barbs your 1/2" is the bling, most likely nothing you are doing requires the use of 1/2" tubing and most certainly the DDC is foolish for a 1/2" system |
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12-17-2004, 01:19 PM | #216 |
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and again I agree, but it would be selling for the wrong reason(s)
if the 1/2" system was actually a low flow resistance one, then the bigger Laing pump will deliver better performance |
12-17-2004, 01:25 PM | #217 |
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yup i have a 1/2 system and dont want to use redusers or mess about with tubeing over tubeing i wud like the ddc as its a 12v pump thus not needing switches or relays to oparate and i feel may actualy be better then my presant Eheim 1048 also in the french reveaw of ddc there was a statement about restriction of inlet so maybe there may be a little flow to be gained useing 1/2 barbs after all
"most certainly the DDC is foolish for a 1/2" system" i dont feel that is true (edit and hopefully the ddc dont leak like the d4)
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12-17-2004, 01:35 PM | #218 |
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"(edit and hopefully the ddc dont leak like the d4)"
a leaking D4 ?? details ? who contacted ? yes, I am interested |
12-17-2004, 01:45 PM | #219 |
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was on some uk forum il try and find it again but im more interested bout ddc's in 1/2 has Laing ever tested this? :shrug:
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12-17-2004, 01:59 PM | #220 | |
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12-17-2004, 01:59 PM | #221 |
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yes, the same pump 'design' with 1/2" barbs is called the D4 by Laing, MCP650 by Swiftech
ns1 for space and/or noise, sure - just not performance (then why the 1/2" ?, lol) |
12-17-2004, 04:36 PM | #222 |
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I'm so confused :-(. What should i do??? ok here was my plan. A MCW6002 , one of those new poly whatever bay reservoirs, a 7 3/4 "X 6" shrouded heater core with 2 120mm X 38mm fans in a push /pull setup, 1/2 " fittings all around. What pump should I use? Someone please save me before I screw up and buy the wrong one ;-)
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12-17-2004, 04:42 PM | #223 | |
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12-17-2004, 04:46 PM | #224 | |
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12-17-2004, 04:53 PM | #225 |
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I was reading over at overclockers that fans in a push/ pull config produced significantly more airflow. Especially in a thick heater core (2") situation. Yes I am willing to tolerate more noise when I'm in a gaming mode. I use a reobus when in 2D
I'm using a MCW5000 at the moment with the Swifttech one pass radiator . I was using the old swiftech 300 pump before it crapped out on me and am now stuck with a garden type submersible at the moment. I'm really not happy with the rise in temps under load Last edited by Niatross; 12-17-2004 at 05:04 PM. |
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