Marijuana-what is it good for? :0

[superart]

Well, at least you canadians are good for something.

;-)

[satanicoo]

I am sick almoust all the time, thats why i smoke marijuana.










...dah!

[superart]

It's funny this thread resurfaced at this time.

My friend who is very fond of pot (smokes 1-2 times a week), has decided to quit. He has made this decision because he started working out, and supposedly, marijuana makes it hard or impossible to build muscles.

Anyway, long story short, this Friday I'm gunna help him finish off his stash.........because I'm such a good friend, and that's what friends are for. :-D

[AngryAlpaca]

I don't smoke pot, I don't like pot smokers, but I don't think that marijuana banning is doing what it's supposed to. I believe that the ban encourages things like methamphetamines, as they are cheaper, easier to make, and give a better high than the plant drugs that are harder to produce, albeit much better for your brain.

[superart]

Originally Posted by AngryAlpaca

I don't smoke pot, I don't like pot smokers, but I don't think that marijuana banning is doing what it's supposed to. I believe that the ban encourages things like methamphetamines, as they are cheaper, easier to make, and give a better high than the plant drugs that are harder to produce, albeit much better for your brain.

Actually the "chemical drugs" are a lot harder to produce than the "plant drugs", but I agree with you that the "plant drugs" are a lot better for you than chemicals.

Also, If you dont smoke, how do you know that meth gives you a better high than smoking pot? Iv'e never done meth (nor do I ever intend to), but from what I have heard, pot gives a much better and different high.

Also, you may not like steriotypical stoners. However, with most pot smokers, you really would not know that they smoke. There are probably a lot of people that you know and like, but don't know that they smoke. Your boss, your teacher(s), your doctor, your lawyer, your priest..................??your kids??

[bellevegasj]

Marijuana is less harmful than McDonalds or Alchohol. Everything should be legal as long as it doesn't hurt anyone besides the person doing it. Educate and let people make their own decisions. Problem is that nobody takes personal responsibility for their actions. Especially here in America. =(

[BillA]

"I don't like pot smokers"
hmm
are brownies ok ?

[AngryAlpaca]

Dad, stepmom, aunt, brother, his friends, a couple other people I know, etc. I know lots of people who smoke weed and do other drugs, but most of these people don't do it too often. The people that I know who do it often are not pleasant to be around. I don't like weed itself, either. I think I'm allergic to the smell (never tried the actual drug)

By "easier to produce" I meant faster, not necessarily more difficult. It only takes a few hours to make meth, but months to make weed.

I have no first hand experience with drugs, but I hear a lot about drugs, and have heard that meth gives a better high, although most people (hardcore stoners included, for the most part) don't think that it's a particularly good drug. I have heard fairly definitively that LSD gives a nice high, though.

Edit: Not so sure about brownie eaters. I haven't been around people who eat "special" brownies a lot, so I have little or no knowledge of people who eat those.

[BillA]

sometimes risky to classify based on an activity, but heavy users (of anything) are different

my brother 'lost' 7yrs from LSD, no drug is 'good'

[superart]

yea, overindulgance in anything is bad. Food, drink, drugs, even sex.

The key word is moderation. If you keep your use in moderation, your OK.

[AngryAlpaca]

Deleted. Not quite sure of my opinion anymore, after thinking about it.

70% of Canadians think that smoking (cigarretes) at home is child abuse (relevent to my comment that was previously here.)

Hmm... I don't like marijuana but I think it gets chemical drugs developed. I think it's a bad influence on a child, but things like LSD, Extacy, and meth (especially meth) are much worse (IMO) than it.

[9mmCensor]

I have a bad back.

I think dope would help.

Legalize it!

[BillA]

I have a bad brain,
I know dope would help
Provide it in our basic medical care program !
(now THAT, a basic medical care program, is a sorry joke indeed)

[pHaestus]

I have a bad attitude. I'm certain oral stimulation of my penis will help. Why aren't hookers considered "mental health professionals" and covered by Blue Cross/Blue Shield?

[BillA]

well you could sub a rectal exam ?
I think they are covered

[pHaestus]

You've been in California too long if you think those are the same thing

[Kobuchi]

Originally Posted by superart

most pot smokers, you really would not know that they smoke.

A few blocks from my house is a commercial street where pot dealers make their rounds and loiter in the park, offering just about every passer-by but the old Chinese ladies, "pot?", "skunk?", "dope?", etc. One learns to ignore the milder dealers. Sometimes when I had a little baby in the stroller or even napping on my shoulder I'd feel assaulted by some leering Bob Dylan repeating, "Sticky weed? Sticky weed!?" until he gets the clear negative. I enjoy the smell of pot cutting through the park on a summer night, but the dealers aren't welcome.

Then the dealers all disappeared. There was a sort of Turkish styled cafe opened up down the street. It looked comfy and luxurious in Bohemian fashion but I never checked it out.

A few months ago the owner of Da Kine Cafe made a media announcement that her business had been quietly selling pot now for two years without a single police incident. Days later the police raided Da Kine Cafe.

A week after that, my toddler son was pulling me along to buy ice cream when a shabby kid stopped us with the question, "Hash?"

[tnv]

Originally Posted by lukasz70

well we've had some messy debates in this forum, one about iraq and america, and then another one about religion

now through personal experience i've learned to not talk about politics or religion, but when i said that in the america vs iraq thread, someone started a religion pros and cons that just continued the mess.

anyway, i think this is a topic that will generate some good productive discussion. and i chose it cause this stuff is everywhere, and now the canada laws have also just changed for it, http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968793972154

so should it be lagalized? why/why not?

I am for govt. funded drugs...of all kinds. You want crack...coke...junk...anything? The govt. should give you all you want...for FREE!! Get it in the mail. Deliver it to your door. Supply the needles. All you could ever want. Then, all the drugies would o.d., and the govt. could pick up the bodies. See, no problem anymore. Show me even one person who does drugs who can say "enough already, no more!" Nope, they never know when to quit, so they'll kill themselves and there will be an end to it. Although, we would still have to dispose of all the hundreds of thousands of bodies. But that would only be for the first year or so.

[peepingdan]

Originally Posted by msv

Is marijuana a gateway to heavier drugs?
The question is not: "How many of those who smoke marijuana todday will smoke crack in a year?" The answer will of course be "A few percents".
The question should be: "How many of those who smoke crack today started with marijuana?" Here we see that the answer is "A heck lot more than a few percent".
So, yes, marijuana is a gateway to heavier drugs, and therefore there is only one way to treat it; avoid it like plague.
regards
Mikael S.

How many people that learn to walk murder someone? Just a small percent.
How many people that murder learn to walk? 100%!

I was reading the American Dental Society's website about tongue piercings. They said that teens who got a tongue piercing were more likely to smoke. That is horribly unscientific because the factors are entirely unrelated. People who smoked marijuana then moved to crack didn't start because of marijuana. They were screwed up or unfortunate to begin with!

[pHaestus]

I tried a wide variety of drugs as a college kid and decided that my choice was clear: drugs/slacking or studying/applying myself. It's true that drug use can very easily progress well beyond experimentation and into addiction/problems. The same thing is true for alcohol, internet porn, plastic surgery, and a huge variety of other things. I feel everyone should make their own choices, but that it is important for good information and data to be out there and available. I don't feel that that was the case in the 90s regarding drugs. Instead it was more "just say no" and "DARE" and when you later dabbled in marijuana then you were left with the opinion of "Well govt and society lied to me about mj; what about the other drugs?" As a result, my friends and I tended to try everything just to see what would happen. Some drugs are, in fact, very bad for you (duh). I have never seen a less productive group of people than a group of college kids with a dormroom full of pills they bought in Mexico. And that was all perfectly legal (though not especially bright). I graduated with a 3.7 GPA from college, and managed only a 1.8 that term! That was when I made my decision to work on education instead of partying and living the "high life". That decision has worked out pretty well for me thus far.

[9mmCensor]

I manage to slack off pretty well without any drugs or even serious drinking.

[peepingdan]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

I tried a wide variety of drugs as a college kid and decided that my choice was clear: drugs/slacking or studying/applying myself. It's true that drug use can very easily progress well beyond experimentation and into addiction/problems. The same thing is true for alcohol, internet porn, plastic surgery, and a huge variety of other things. I feel everyone should make their own choices, but that it is important for good information and data to be out there and available. I don't feel that that was the case in the 90s regarding drugs. Instead it was more "just say no" and "DARE" and when you later dabbled in marijuana then you were left with the opinion of "Well govt and society lied to me about mj; what about the other drugs?" As a result, my friends and I tended to try everything just to see what would happen. Some drugs are, in fact, very bad for you (duh). I have never seen a less productive group of people than a group of college kids with a dormroom full of pills they bought in Mexico. And that was all perfectly legal (though not especially bright). I graduated with a 3.7 GPA from college, and managed only a 1.8 that term! That was when I made my decision to work on education instead of partying and living the "high life". That decision has worked out pretty well for me thus far.

Good for you, thats a wonderful story of success. I'm glad you came to your conclusions with logic and knowledge. You make me proud to visit this site and bow (I really do kowtow) to you.

[superart]

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Originally Posted by tnv

Show me even one person who does drugs who can say "enough already, no more!"

[BillA]

ditto
my decision as to the appropriate time, place

I've seen a lot of this stuff (4 guys shooting up with the same needle, bleh !) and believe that the real danger is just what pH described above,
drug usage DOES screw up one's education (it affects recall significantly)

no problems with adults making their choice, but those is school will do themselves damage (this is a parental problem, not a legal one)

[superart]

billA, i don't know about that. All of the stoners that I know that smoke everyday, usually multiple times, do much better than me at school.