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Unread 03-24-2003, 03:31 PM   #176
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once we (me and hara) will open a thread on what the fuc* we do at school.
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Unread 03-24-2003, 03:44 PM   #177
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btw jaydee116, is the block in your avatar a micropin block? i saw it somewhere but i never found the results of this baby. can you please post the link so that i can see it ??

i think that it's quite a good block and it is worth reading something about it
Here ya go: http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=5559

With a couple modifications it would be a contender for the White Water. Justy needs some inlet work. Block works real well. This was also done on the machine that I claimed can do your squirel block in 20mins with smaller channels. The base on this block only took 15mins and that was with a half dull bit.
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Unread 03-24-2003, 04:16 PM   #178
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have you ever looked in a mirror and smelled the pignant smell coming out off your ass???
Have you ever learned how to write in English?

On another note, What sort of jet impingement would you recommend ben?
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Unread 03-24-2003, 04:36 PM   #179
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On another note, What sort of jet impingement would you recommend ben?
With an average pump, i.e. an Eheim, I'd go with a single nozzle entrance, possibly around 1/4 inch (6.4 mm).

With a good pump, you can go with 1/8 inch, but make sure that the jet doesnt end up breaking apart on top of the pin, or the result will be disastrous (i.e. the performance won't be as good as it can be). Your center "needle" shape is going to be critical. If you need to, feel free to extend it right into the nozzle, even if it means soldering an extra piece on it.
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Unread 03-25-2003, 10:51 AM   #180
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i don't think that adding a nozzle to this block would be a good idea since we have that cone shaped pin in the middle
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i don't think that adding a nozzle to this block would be a good idea since we have that cone shaped pin in the middle
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Balinju.. I must say , I have lurked this thread since your very first post in it. All I can say it badass.. Excellent job planning and not getting discouraged from the ish talking that sometimes goes on. You've taken every piece of positive critisism and used it to make that badass block, all while ignoring comments of how you won't be able to do it and other such garbage.. hats off , no matter what this block does performance wise it was a complete success.. congrats .. i give you 5 out of 5 drooly's
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Unread 03-25-2003, 10:58 AM   #183
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You're wrong! Jet impingement is proven to work on various other blocks. The best idea is to modify a barb to restrict the water by blocking some of it, In other words reducing the inlet diameter a bit.
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Unread 03-25-2003, 11:07 AM   #184
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Balinju.. I must say , I have lurked this thread since your very first post in it. All I can say it badass.. Excellent job planning and not getting discouraged from the ish talking that sometimes goes on. You've taken every piece of positive critisism and used it to make that badass block, all while ignoring comments of how you won't be able to do it and other such garbage.. hats off , no matter what this block does performance wise it was a complete success.. congrats .. i give you 5 out of 5 drooly's

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Unread 03-25-2003, 11:08 AM   #185
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You're wrong! Jet impingement is proven to work on various other blocks. The best idea is to modify a barb to restrict the water by blocking some of it, In other words reducing the inlet diameter a bit.
yes i know, but if you want to use jet impingement in this type of block, i think that the first thing to do is to cut off the middle pin otherwise the jet is waisted and is spreads out on the pin, so all the work would be useless
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Unread 03-25-2003, 11:12 AM   #186
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btw ben, when are going to start milling radius??
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i need to ask another question, could a normal gaskit be used instead of an oring, because i have a drill press design in my mind and i can't mill oring grooves with a drill press, and i personnaly prefere a gaskit that goop. But i don't know if it can do a great job in watercooling and i never tried one considering that i don't have that much experience. what i can say is that they are perfect to insert between two parts of a car silencer to be screwed together
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I'm ordering copper online for an HDD and Radius today.

I think the nozzle would be perfect. Here's a diagram:
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That's what I had in mind. After the excibition I'm going to experiment with different nozzels on the squirrel waterblock.
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Unread 03-25-2003, 12:30 PM   #190
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I'm ordering copper online for an HDD and Radius today.

I think the nozzle would be perfect. Here's a diagram:
but like that you are waisting your nozzle onto the pin!!!
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Unread 03-25-2003, 12:31 PM   #191
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what i meant is that if you have a flat surface under the nozzle, than the pressured water will hit the ground not hit the nozzle and spread into 2
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I'm having a hard time understanding your point.

The flow should be coming down through the nozzle at a relatively high speed. It's going to hit the (dimpled) baseplate, wether the pin is there or not. The pin will have little to no effect on the flow, but it might add to the heat being spread, which is always good.

In jet inpingement, it is known that there is a deadspot (i.e. no flow) in the center of the affected area, at the baseplate. By having a pin, you take maximum advantage of jet inpingement, by bypassing that deadspot.

The only important thing to remember is that the pin should be in the shape of a sharp point, otherwise the flow will break up at the top of the pin.
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In jet inpingement, it is known that there is a deadspot (i.e. no flow) in the center of the affected area, at the baseplate. By having a pin, you take maximum advantage of jet inpingement, by bypassing that deadspot.
That's why we designed squirrel with a pin. I fully agree with you bigben.
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That's why I designed squirrel with a pin. I fully agree with you bigben. Don't listen to balinju, he's full of it
first of all you did not design squirrel, do not bull shit and do not think that no one is better than you.

to answer to your statement bigben is that the pin in squirrel is not that sharp as i wished it or designed it to be. if a jet inpingement is used with this block, the jet would spread out on the pin and will have no effect. remember that the pin is not pointed, it has a flat area on top understood my point??
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Then what is this? When I said that you were full of bullshit, It didn't imply that I wasn't

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this is what i mean. see the image, there would develop a dead spot.
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Then what is this? When I said that you were full of bullshit, It didn't imply that I wasn't

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hara do not be jelous. you are saying now that squirrel is your design just because the machinist told you that your design is too difficult to be milled. Once we decided that my design is going to be milled, than you started to say that squirrel is not mine but ours. Not that you drew for me an oring groove round the block using acad, you are saying that squirrel is yours. muhahahaha. you are so funny and jelous. i tell you another time, do not think that you are god and unbeatable.
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bigben, if the cone had this shape, then jet inpingement would be the best, but it is not that pointed

once i will take squirrel and with some sand paper or something similar i will spend a whole day to try to actually bring the cone as was first designed. when ready, then i will try jet inpingement on this block and it would become a better performer i think.

i hope that you understood my point
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sorry forgot image, if the cone had this shape than it would be optimal
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you are saying now that squirrel is your design just because the machinist told you that your design is too difficult to be milled.
We redisigned squirrel with the 10 2mm channels when it was decided that my design required too much endmills. You are just being inconsiderate by saying it is all yours and that is simply untolerable. I took your concept and transformed it into something that could actually be done.
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