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Unread 03-25-2003, 01:17 PM   #201
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Well yes, that's what I wrote!

Even if you have to solder a point on top of it, it'll be good!
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Unread 03-25-2003, 01:18 PM   #202
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Well yes, that's what I wrote!

Even if you have to solder a point on top of it, it'll be good!
that would be eccelent
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Unread 03-25-2003, 01:20 PM   #203
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We redisigned squirrel with the 10 2mm channels when it was decided that my design required too much endmills. You are just being inconsiderate by saying it is all yours and that is simply untolerable. I took your concept and transformed it into something that could actually be done.
i am not considering these types of comments any more. you are so tedious
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Unread 03-25-2003, 01:27 PM   #204
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understood my point ben??
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You can round up a small metal file and file it into a cone shape. Or as ben pointed out drop a dab of solder on the top and then file into a cone shape. Why wasn't the cone done right in the first place?
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You can round up a small metal file and file it into a cone shape. Or as ben pointed out drop a dab of solder on the top and then file into a cone shape. Why wasn't the cone done right in the first place?
because when he was milling the cone he thought that it is comming very narrow and he thought that is was moving with the force of the mill instead of being milled. remember that this guy never milled water blocks in his life so he is allow some mistakes
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You can round up a small metal file and file it into a cone shape. Or as ben pointed out drop a dab of solder on the top and then file into a cone shape. Why wasn't the cone done right in the first place?
There isn't much space to insert a metal file. I tried there isn't place to move the file.
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One thing that I tried to make the cone more pointed is using a really small blade. The ideal tool would be something which resembles a pencip sharpener.

It is difficult to find something to insert there.
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there is something that we could use, it is a sort of tool that looks like a dremel but it is not. it looks like one but it is no way near. the only thing that i know is that one of its blades can be used to sharpen small objects and the blade is not that big. it would fit in that size for sure, if i find a link of the tool i will post it
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think of it this way, the actual hole in the jet that the water flows through is larger than that little spot on the top of the pin, It would work pretty good even if it wasnt pointed,

I gaurentee youll drop a few degrees by using a jet, GO FOR IT!
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JETJETJETJETJET!
Awsome work on the block also
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JETJETJETJETJET!
Awsome work on the block also
Thanks, ok.
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JETJETJETJETJET!
Awsome work on the block also
thankx alot man
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are there any free 3d design studios around? something really basic?
Yep!... there is a quite good 3Dtool available. I Like anyway and its easy to learn with nice tutorials to start with...

http://www.ptc.com/go/3d/index.htm
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Ok, so new dilemma. To make a jet one has to reduce the cross sectional are through which the fluid has to pass. I don't know about fluid dynamics but these are the possible ways:
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(A) represents a logarithmic approach while (E) is parabolic. Which one is best between the two? The logarithmic? Also, me and Balinju have been debating which is the worst between D and C. I thought D was the worst (with reasons) but he thought C :shrug: (we never agree)


Assume that the inlet and outlets of all approaches are of the same diameter and that the height of all is the same.

Another problem to tackle would be the diameter of the jet and the shape (circular?)
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Question: The more powerful a pump, the smaller the nozzel or vice versa?
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Question: The more powerful a pump, the smaller the nozzel or vice versa?
That's right, but you should really tune it for the pump you'll be using.

E is best: check out the specs in the Radius thread.
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Is it speced for submerged BB?...
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Is it speced for submerged BB?...
I'm pretty sure it isn't (following up on Bill, uh?), but that would affect the transition area, where specs call for a 10 deg bevel. It should otherwise be as spec'ed, IMO.

If anyone has any idea how to best flange the outlet, please post it!
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An idea about lapping just came to mind but I don't know if it works or not.

Can someone help??

Here is the idea, could a belt sander be used to lap a block, and between the sandpaper and the base of the sander, a piece of glass would be inserted.

here is a picture, hope that you understood what i meant
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That's right, but you should really tune it for the pump you'll be using.

E is best: check out the specs in the Radius thread.
I saw it. Why is E better than A.
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Bumpage...
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I saw it. Why is E better than A.
I believe E would meet ASME specs more closely. See "Radius" thread.

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I saw it. Why is E better than A.
The specs call for a parabolic shape, based on the diameter of the outlet and inlet. E is parabolic, A is not (or not clear).

The spec shape is the most efficient, where the orifice plate is the least efficient. Having an upside down curved inlet may make things worse, but there might be a resonant effect, depending on the flow rate, where the redirected flow may or may not interfere with the inlet.
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