M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3

jerry110 · 12-28-2006, 09:04 PM

I have a M4100 with 256 of ram i also have a Cobalt Raq 3 that i am retireing that has this Socket 7 mod from a 300mhz to a 550 mhz AMD K6-2 with the speaker wire mod.
It has worked flawless for years and did improve the performance on the raq 3. my question is will this same mod work on the M4100? Thanks

http://www.cobaltfacts.com/raqprocessor.html

Phoenix32 · 12-29-2006, 01:53 PM

Well, for starters, the M4100 uses an Intel 233Mhz, not an AMD 300Mhz. So ignoring the voltage difference between the two processors, the multiplier setting is different. Meaning, this TYPE of mod might work, assuming the voltage does not become an issue, but you would need the proper "jumpers" changes for 3.5 X 66Mhz to whatever you are going to use (like 3.5 X 66Mhz to 6.5 X 66Mhz for a switch from a 233Mhz to a 433Mhz).

jerry110 · 12-31-2006, 08:57 AM

ok how about an evergreen processor then? has voltage reg and a 500 amd?

Phoenix32 · 12-31-2006, 01:19 PM

In a 4100, probably not (due to clearances and cooling). In a 4000, maybe, won't know until we try and see results. Do you have one? They are hard to find these days.

jerry110 · 01-03-2007, 08:50 AM

yea i have an evergreen cpu and an amd k62 out of my cobalt but the 4100 is a production box....

Phoenix32 · 01-03-2007, 05:14 PM

As I said, I doubt it will work in the 4100. There is VERY LITTLE clearance between the CPU HSF and the top of the case in a stock unit. I don't think there is enough for the evergreen unit (at leats not enough to have proper cooling).

Morpheus256 · 01-04-2007, 08:16 PM

it would be very interesting to see if the evergreen did function correctly never the less

Phoenix32 · 01-04-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus256

it would be very interesting to see if the evergreen did function correctly never the less

Well, that would be true and would be fun to test in a 4000 (plenty of clearance there) like one of my 3 4000 units, but I don't have an evergreen unit... So...

You got one? Want to sell it? Then I could test it. OR, you could go buy a 4000...

Morpheus256 · 01-06-2007, 12:22 AM

unfortunitly i dont have one, went looking on ebay, couldnt find anything.
jerry could still test this with the cover off the unit. but i dont think anything is possible on a 4100 as it stands there is nowhere near enough room for clearance.

jerry110 · 01-06-2007, 11:05 AM

AHHHHHHH i cant find my evergreen well that idea is out......

12-28-2006, 09:04 PM	#1
jerry110 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Posts: 4	M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3 I have a M4100 with 256 of ram i also have a Cobalt Raq 3 that i am retireing that has this Socket 7 mod from a 300mhz to a 550 mhz AMD K6-2 with the speaker wire mod. It has worked flawless for years and did improve the performance on the raq 3. my question is will this same mod work on the M4100? Thanks http://www.cobaltfacts.com/raqprocessor.html

12-29-2006, 01:53 PM	#2
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3 Well, for starters, the M4100 uses an Intel 233Mhz, not an AMD 300Mhz. So ignoring the voltage difference between the two processors, the multiplier setting is different. Meaning, this TYPE of mod might work, assuming the voltage does not become an issue, but you would need the proper "jumpers" changes for 3.5 X 66Mhz to whatever you are going to use (like 3.5 X 66Mhz to 6.5 X 66Mhz for a switch from a 233Mhz to a 433Mhz).

12-31-2006, 08:57 AM	#3
jerry110 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Posts: 4	Re: M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3 ok how about an evergreen processor then? has voltage reg and a 500 amd?

12-31-2006, 01:19 PM	#4
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3 In a 4100, probably not (due to clearances and cooling). In a 4000, maybe, won't know until we try and see results. Do you have one? They are hard to find these days.

01-03-2007, 08:50 AM	#5
jerry110 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Posts: 4	Re: M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3 yea i have an evergreen cpu and an amd k62 out of my cobalt but the 4100 is a production box....

01-03-2007, 05:14 PM	#6
Phoenix32 Thermophile Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 1,282	Re: M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3 As I said, I doubt it will work in the 4100. There is VERY LITTLE clearance between the CPU HSF and the top of the case in a stock unit. I don't think there is enough for the evergreen unit (at leats not enough to have proper cooling).

01-04-2007, 08:16 PM	#7
Morpheus256 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: canada Posts: 21	Re: M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3 it would be very interesting to see if the evergreen did function correctly never the less

01-06-2007, 12:22 AM	#9
Morpheus256 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: canada Posts: 21	Re: M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3 unfortunitly i dont have one, went looking on ebay, couldnt find anything. jerry could still test this with the cover off the unit. but i dont think anything is possible on a 4100 as it stands there is nowhere near enough room for clearance.

01-06-2007, 11:05 AM	#10
jerry110 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Posts: 4	Re: M4100 CPU upgrade --> Cobalt 3 AHHHHHHH i cant find my evergreen well that idea is out......

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