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Unread 01-11-2003, 04:28 PM   #26
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So the question still remains – What would be the best configuration ?
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Unread 01-11-2003, 04:33 PM   #27
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I'm not Bill either, but I just had to look :o

NICE silverprop-) the system looks great too. Great rig
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Simple: use as powerful a pump as you financially see fit.

In other words, spend as much on a pump as you (reasonably) can: it'll never be too small.
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So the question still remains – What would be the best configuration ?
To be more specific... rad to block (for the coolest temp entering the block). Anything else (pump, airtrap)doesn't matter. Even then, the benefits are infinetisemal, and not measurable.

Many people will argue otherwise, but I have yet to see someone prove, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that it is not optimal (nor relevant, for that matter!). Too many variables.
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Unread 01-11-2003, 05:48 PM   #30
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MMMMMM PIE. Its the only number I know in which is directly related to food.
Hmm. They've changed the value for pi? Last I looked it was 3.14159...
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Unread 01-11-2003, 05:54 PM   #31
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What kind of numbers are you getting using this setup ? Have you tried any other setup and if so what where the numbers ?
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Unread 01-11-2003, 05:56 PM   #32
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Simple: use as powerful a pump as you financially see fit.

In other words, spend as much on a pump as you (reasonably) can: it'll never be too small.
Sheesh Ben,

Don't suppose you read Dave's article. (Linked above)

You certainly can have more pump than is beneficial.
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Unread 01-11-2003, 06:08 PM   #33
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You certainly can have more pump than is beneficial
To the point were it is Detrimental
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Unread 01-11-2003, 06:23 PM   #34
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What kind of numbers are you getting using this setup ? Have you tried any other setup and if so what where the numbers ?
I've only run it a short time as I only finished it just before my dads wedding.

It seems to have dropped temps about 10C. I think this is mainly due to the airflow throuigh the rad (Dual fans and better shrouds) however the increaase in flowrate probably had effect.

As for those going on about it would be best to go CPU first etc, then you do the pipe runs that will still allow me to access everything easily etc.

The res looks a bit scrappy atm, I will in the future paint it etc. It is sealed however, but theres probably a bit of air in there.
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Hmm. They've changed the value for pi? Last I looked it was 3.14159...
Proably is...

everything after 3.14 was randomly typed.
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Unread 01-12-2003, 08:19 AM   #36
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ah yes, the good enough crowd again
you know, sawdust in the flour
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ah yes, the good enough crowd again
you know, sawdust in the flour
You talking bout me or the pie lovers?
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no pippin88
to those offering, and accepting, adulterated pie
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Unread 01-12-2003, 10:43 AM   #39
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now I very much like that third graphic in Dave's article,
but he proved (again) the maxim that comprehension is inversely related to complexity

I am not Job, lets hope Dave drops by
LOL. Well I dropped by and I gotta say I'm amazed at the interpretations that some folks can get from that. You are definitely correct in your comment, Bill.

All other things being equal, including the volume and temperature of air flowing past the radiator, you would always be "best" having the radiator directly ahead of the block. This isn't rocket science and the radiator is the only thing that lowers water temperature. If not the coolest when leaving the radiator, then where?

What's not so obvious is how one gets the coolest air to the radiator, which can matter more than where it sits in relation to the block and pump. Radiator ahead or behind the pump generally means a difference measured in tenths of a degree C. Radiator position relative to "the rest of the world" can mean an air temperature difference of easily 2°C or more.
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ah yes, the good enough crowd again
you know, sawdust in the flour
Why stop at added fiber, toss in a few critters for protein
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