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10-29-2005, 09:46 PM | #76 | |
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Hypocritical Signature I tried to delete: Procooling: where scientific principles are ignored because big corporations are immune to mistakes and oversights. |
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10-29-2005, 10:30 PM | #77 | |
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Problem is a manufacture will claim their rad is superior just because it has a .1C lower temp. I am so put off by PC rad manufactures right now I am am either going to build my own copper tube rad or just buy a heater core for my upcoming system build. |
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10-29-2005, 10:44 PM | #78 |
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so basically they're identical, though on the quality note i'm going to favor the BIX (one of MR's 12T samples had a soldered-over flowtube...)
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10-29-2005, 11:07 PM | #79 |
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Joe, any thoughts on locking this thread? I'm not sure we're getting anything productive out of it.
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10-30-2005, 01:07 AM | #80 | ||
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BTW Sales to direct to retailers are less than 2% of sales. If you talk to retailers they might indeed think my company is a bottom feeder. The Reservoir is an OEM item, no secret we manufacture it and Swiftech has distributed our CoolSleeves from day one. The project we just completed was designing and manufacturing OEM components. No CoolingWorks on it, happily not involved in marketing and distribution. Quote:
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10-30-2005, 01:43 AM | #81 |
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Dude this thread goes to 11! I mean wow, a few days ago we had BillA Vs Bruce in the cage fight throwing F bombs like they were going out of style. Now we have Lothar Vs Cathar in the CAGE OF DOOM - 2 will go in, and 2 will come out just with some slight bruises to their ego
Who's next for a round? and yes Jaydee, I am going to add that smilie I think. this is the best entertainment on the forum since JMKE and Liquid3D were banned.
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10-30-2005, 01:57 AM | #82 |
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[quote=Joe]Joe - Web slacker, incharge of fueling flame wars, comedy relief, inaccurate timelines, and just general ****ing around. Oh and I own Procooling[.QUOTE]
What's is inaccurate timeliness? Hopefully you can give me some detials so I can use that oxymoron next time im late. Supervisor might get a laugh out of it I think we should have a flaming archive for the future. Last edited by ricecrispi; 10-30-2005 at 02:18 AM. |
10-30-2005, 07:17 AM | #83 |
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the ego-bomb zone
the pressue builds and builds until a micro-fault triggers 'da bomb' with the predictable distruction of civility (and increase in candor); from the perspective of the charred relations one can harvest sufficient humility . . . . to have restraint 'till some other jackass sets me off again slow learner, or not so unhappy with the results in any case the format needs improvement should I recast these 'facts' (sic) differently ? HEY GUYS ! Swiftech needs your help. They/Gabe owes me a bunch of $ but they are making less and less. Can the profoolers here please buy more Swiftech products so they can lose more . . ? no, wait; buy less so they lose less . . . ? hmm, what might work ? the company needs to turn around so they need a turn-around expert ! new management could do the trick so who wants to buy Swiftech ? now the debate over the value |
10-30-2005, 09:18 AM | #84 |
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If ego is at the root of the problem at Swiftwreck... how could a serious investor buy it?
The water-cooled PC market seems to me a "leisure" market. This is complete speculation on my part and my real goal is to fuel more discontent among this thread's readers! Does anyone think that the PC water-cooling market is in the 8 figures? (Disclaimer: I have no facts, just assumptions) |
10-30-2005, 09:28 AM | #85 | |
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Seriously, with the way this site "distills" facts, you could not fail. |
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10-30-2005, 10:39 AM | #86 | |
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I was getting all prepared to do so a year or 2 ago. I even contacted Cathar and asked if he wanted a US manufacture and distributor of his blocks. Had the equipment lined out and financing setup. Just couldn't get the long term business plan to work out. To many uncertainties. If I lived in a larger city and could use the equipment for other things then that would have pushed me to go forward. However the local economy here is shit and already has a well established machine shops. None of them to interested in water blocks either. That is all good though. I don't have what it takes to run a business anyway. |
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10-30-2005, 12:17 PM | #87 |
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As i suspected with such a market... Have you considered selling your ideas or designs to some of the companies already in the market? Looks like one of them could use the help
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10-30-2005, 03:06 PM | #88 | |
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Is it just me, or does BillA's sentence structure remind you of a Chinese exchange student trying to read Shakespeare?
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10-30-2005, 07:17 PM | #89 | |
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LOL!! Totally! My name is Hung... Hung Lo... On the morrow, i shall see the sun... er.. no i shall not see the sun... |
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10-30-2005, 08:04 PM | #90 |
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Hey superart, you should be out of university soon... what's your major?
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10-30-2005, 08:31 PM | #91 | |
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10-30-2005, 08:46 PM | #92 | |
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10-30-2005, 08:46 PM | #93 | |
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I have tried and failed... and i will continue to try... |
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10-30-2005, 10:36 PM | #94 | |
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10-30-2005, 10:37 PM | #95 | |
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Unregistered has been called unobjective as many others. In this day and age it is expected the person giving you info is simply trying to make a buck off you and will say whatever it takes to do such. My vision of the market is simply not to get into it unless you have plans to do more than just water cooling. The future of water cooling is way to hard to estimate to make a solid business plan/model. From what I have gatherd on CPU design we may not even be able to mount a water block in 10-20 years. That would be instant death. You would want a primary market to get into and make water cooling stuff secondary. That way if water cooling is not possible in the future you will still have a primary market to pay the bills. As for selling designs I would rather not. I honestly don't have anything better than whats already available to sell anyway. The Storm is a tought act to follow. The MP-05 SP is pretty much the design I have been trying to make for a couple years now and just havn't had the ability or time. Nah, I am going back to my roots of DIY. |
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10-30-2005, 10:42 PM | #96 |
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Sure, I understand all that. You said it best... get back to your roots.
AngryAlpaca... read you loud and clear... What an interesting group of pros |
10-31-2005, 03:12 PM | #97 | |
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The report shows a "Defered compensation" then in note 4 states that there exists an agreement with "certain officers" ... "...upon the Company's financial ability to pay such amounts". Obviously you and Gabe never reached an agreement (otherwise we wouldn't be here), and the question that is left is: *** - Does Gabe recognize owing you anything? *** If so, you can bet that the terms are going to be left open ended. Live and learn. If not, then there is an act of bad faith involved. Which is it? (I'll assume the former) I've worked for friends under similar circumstances, but they eventually learned that salary is not something to be meddled with; this is people's livelyhood here. The real worry is that Gabe has the ability to put the company in such a position that it may take years before the deferred compensation can be resolved; just add another SUV, buy more equipment, stock up on supplies/inventory, etc.... *** - Do you have any reason to believe that he would do such a thing? *** |
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10-31-2005, 04:01 PM | #98 |
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Don't have a whole lot to add to the cause; however I am sorry to hear that such an influential person as Bill A is being hosed by Swiftech. Good Luck man
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10-31-2005, 04:18 PM | #99 | |
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no, sereously. I'm in my 3rd year now, and will probalby need 2-3 more years after this one. I started out in FIT doing a dual major in computer and aerospace engineering. I stayed there for 2 years untill I ran out of money. Then I transfered to FAU, where I am now. Now I am only majoring in Computer Engineering, since FAU has no aerospace program.
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10-31-2005, 06:02 PM | #100 |
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Ah man. This is what makes procooling worth visiting every now and then.
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