Ok groth walk me through this graphing thing - Page 4

Groth · 07-13-2004, 05:17 AM

No particular reason for a 0.4 C grid that I know of, 'tis legacy pH thing. Now that you've got me thinking....the x and y axes could be separate--independent choices of F and C, GPM and LPM, grid and plain.

BalefireX · 07-13-2004, 05:19 AM

.5 C resolution y axis:

BalefireX · 07-13-2004, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groth

No particular reason for a 0.4 C grid that I know of, 'tis legacy pH thing. Now that you've got me thinking....the x and y axes could be separate--independent choices of F and C, GPM and LPM, grid and plain.

not C -> F... dont make me play with 9ths, please! ::hides::

Groth · 07-13-2004, 05:38 AM

Kidding! No need to make the thing baroque.

Incoherent · 07-13-2004, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BalefireX

.5 C resolution y axis:

What service!

Groth · 07-13-2004, 07:43 AM

Bah! Good service would mean pH getting his ass outa bed and doing an image swap.

In the meantime, I have one with image preloading, an updated swapping function, snowflake backgrounds, and logo watermark! Wow.

BalefireX · 07-13-2004, 08:29 AM

The image preloading is good stuff, and I see you added a little personal touch to the watermarking

0.5° C resolution is nice too, easier to work things out.

Honestly, graphing like this (esp. when pH starts recording more and more data with all his shiny new toys) will make the site so much more useful as a resource.

BillA · 07-13-2004, 08:42 AM

beyond excellent guys!

Groth · 07-13-2004, 08:45 AM

Well, this isn't as quite as good as actual dynamically generated graphs, but we do what we can.

I need to figure out how IE does its cache stuff, the swapping is faster with Moz because it isn't constantly verifying the images. :shrug:

pHaestus · 07-13-2004, 09:32 AM

yawn...youngest went to bed at 2:30...oldest woke up at 6. I am going to die today.

Oh one cool tidbit: I just used a pho include of groth's html to make the page so I can swap this out in roughly 5 seconds

Groth · 07-13-2004, 09:45 AM

I thought you'd appreciate its self-contained and transplantable nature.

No need to bother inserting this latest stuff (unless you really want to), it'll go through another couple revisions today. You could sub in BalefireX's new snowflake backgrounds, though.

pHaestus · 07-13-2004, 09:52 AM

already done (now to get to work)

BillA · 07-13-2004, 10:32 AM

pH
do you have a e-mail 'notification list' ?
LOTS of places should link to that graphic

congrats BalefireX and Groth

pHaestus · 07-13-2004, 10:49 AM

I have a list of web sites that I send news to. Hey I should get Swiftech's product announcement list

BillA · 07-13-2004, 10:53 AM

I'll ask Gabe if you wish ?

pHaestus · 07-13-2004, 11:43 AM

It's probably more trouble than it's worth to sort through and separate vendors and oems from enthusiast sites

pHaestus · 07-13-2004, 12:38 PM

You know THIS would be a logical next project...

BillA · 07-13-2004, 12:40 PM

but what is the "quality" of the data ?
some disclaimers gonna be needed

pHaestus · 07-13-2004, 12:41 PM

Certainly not uniform data quality. How difficult is it to produce such graphs on your own?

BillA · 07-13-2004, 12:46 PM

no idea for the zero head flow rate, other than by arbritary definition of conditions
Cathar probably has a better idea than I
my pump flow bench is in pieces - and low priority for now

Groth · 07-13-2004, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pHaestus

You know THIS would be a logical next project...

I've actually made a start towards it, pulling data off the graphs at http://www.reefs.org/library/pumps/ .

If anyone wants to give me PQ numbers, I'll find a home for 'em.

Some of my code upgrade ideas are smashing to splinters on the rocks of incompatibility.

pHaestus · 07-13-2004, 01:27 PM

Don't forget to make the graph big enoug for the Iwakis

I'll look for the .xls that that data came from in a sec

Groth · 07-13-2004, 01:32 PM

Already planning a 'zoom' button.

.xls is okay, but .csv is easier to import into Origin.

Groth · 07-14-2004, 02:01 PM

Okay, I re-did the image shuffling code to better suit the absence of the Show'em button. It should also be quicker and require fewer contacts with the server.

One bit of weirdness, in IE if you change a bunch of checkboxes very rapidly, the key legend can get corrupted (multithreading fun: it isn't doing the legend updates in the correct order). Let me know how serious of a problem you consider it.

This one.

pHaestus · 07-14-2004, 02:23 PM

I dont personally consider it a problem because I use firefox

Also, it's easy to import xls into origin; just choose open excel and point it to the proper tab.

07-13-2004, 08:29 AM	#82
BalefireX Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Isle of Man Posts: 269	The image preloading is good stuff, and I see you added a little personal touch to the watermarking 0.5° C resolution is nice too, easier to work things out. Honestly, graphing like this (esp. when pH starts recording more and more data with all his shiny new toys) will make the site so much more useful as a resource. __________________ If not, why not?

07-13-2004, 09:32 AM	#85
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	yawn...youngest went to bed at 2:30...oldest woke up at 6. I am going to die today. Oh one cool tidbit: I just used a pho include of groth's html to make the page so I can swap this out in roughly 5 seconds __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

07-13-2004, 09:52 AM	#87
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	already done (now to get to work) __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

07-13-2004, 10:49 AM	#89
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I have a list of web sites that I send news to. Hey I should get Swiftech's product announcement list __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

07-13-2004, 11:43 AM	#91
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	It's probably more trouble than it's worth to sort through and separate vendors and oems from enthusiast sites __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

07-13-2004, 05:17 AM	#76
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	No particular reason for a 0.4 C grid that I know of, 'tis legacy pH thing. Now that you've got me thinking....the x and y axes could be separate--independent choices of F and C, GPM and LPM, grid and plain.

07-13-2004, 05:38 AM	#79
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	Kidding! No need to make the thing baroque.

07-13-2004, 07:43 AM	#81
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	Bah! Good service would mean pH getting his ass outa bed and doing an image swap. In the meantime, I have one with image preloading, an updated swapping function, snowflake backgrounds, and logo watermark! Wow.

07-13-2004, 08:42 AM	#83
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	beyond excellent guys!

07-13-2004, 08:45 AM	#84
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	Well, this isn't as quite as good as actual dynamically generated graphs, but we do what we can. I need to figure out how IE does its cache stuff, the swapping is faster with Moz because it isn't constantly verifying the images. :shrug:

07-13-2004, 09:45 AM	#86
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	I thought you'd appreciate its self-contained and transplantable nature. No need to bother inserting this latest stuff (unless you really want to), it'll go through another couple revisions today. You could sub in BalefireX's new snowflake backgrounds, though.

07-13-2004, 10:32 AM	#88
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	pH do you have a e-mail 'notification list' ? LOTS of places should link to that graphic congrats BalefireX and Groth

07-13-2004, 10:53 AM	#90
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	I'll ask Gabe if you wish ?

07-13-2004, 12:38 PM	#92
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	You know THIS would be a logical next project... __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

07-13-2004, 12:40 PM	#93
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	but what is the "quality" of the data ? some disclaimers gonna be needed

07-13-2004, 12:41 PM	#94
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Certainly not uniform data quality. How difficult is it to produce such graphs on your own? __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

07-13-2004, 12:46 PM	#95
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	no idea for the zero head flow rate, other than by arbritary definition of conditions Cathar probably has a better idea than I my pump flow bench is in pieces - and low priority for now

07-13-2004, 01:27 PM	#97
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Don't forget to make the graph big enoug for the Iwakis I'll look for the .xls that that data came from in a sec __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

07-13-2004, 01:32 PM	#98
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	Already planning a 'zoom' button. .xls is okay, but .csv is easier to import into Origin.

07-14-2004, 02:01 PM	#99
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	Okay, I re-did the image shuffling code to better suit the absence of the Show'em button. It should also be quicker and require fewer contacts with the server. One bit of weirdness, in IE if you change a bunch of checkboxes very rapidly, the key legend can get corrupted (multithreading fun: it isn't doing the legend updates in the correct order). Let me know how serious of a problem you consider it. This one.

07-14-2004, 02:23 PM	#100
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I dont personally consider it a problem because I use firefox Also, it's easy to import xls into origin; just choose open excel and point it to the proper tab. __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

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