Received my Maze3 yesterday, not quite satisfied. - Page 7

DigitalChaos · 04-22-2002, 02:28 PM

best way for even heating is a stove top.. or hell maybe a toaster oven, but put it in a new thread so everyone can see it. and everyone who wants to see the maze3 thread can see it.

Sherlock · 04-22-2002, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Jim
I never heard of brazing used on copper. Brazing is done on ferrous metals. Brazing is kind of a way to solder steel in that you are adding a bonding material (brazing rod) to the pieces being joined rather than melting each of joined pieces at the joint at the same moment while adding a fluxed filler material. Flux to keep impurities out of course. Where in MIG welding the gas shroud around the weld point prevents impurities from forming. (Metal Inert Gas = MIG) Tungsten Inert Gas, is the puppy that welds aluminum. (TIG)

Solder is plenty strong for the blocks just getting an even heat across the large surfaces is something I have not done or needed to do before.

Jim

Interesting, though as EMC2 said copper/copper can be brazed. Brazing is routinely used in underground copper water piping where a stronger bond than standard solder is necessary

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EMC2 · 04-22-2002, 06:37 PM

Sherlock - yes, solder would provide more than enough strength for a top on a block if the surfaces were properly prepared, the strength issue was mentioned regarding Jessm's radiator fins

And yes, a much higher temp is required, but that is a result of the metals in the compounds and their melting points.

Jim - brazing copper is very common is quality heat exchangers for the attachment of the fins to the tubes and is used for the 2 reasons I stated (much better thermal conductivity and extra strength, tho mostly for the first reason). You can get silver brazing compounds in paste, bar, and wire forms. There are different compounds that have differing heat ranges requirements as well. Just be sure to never get the older types that have cadmium in them (extreme health hazard).

Jim · 04-22-2002, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by Sherlock

Interesting, though as EMC2 said copper/copper can be brazed. Brazing is routinely used in underground copper water piping where a stronger bond than standard solder is necessary .

Oh, I stand corrected, first I heard of this.
Jim

max007007 · 04-23-2002, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by Jessfm
We ( www.OCPC.co.uk) pulled our products from release for this very reason.
The Polycarbonate we use is 1/2" , and we still found problems with radial fractures.
The next test batch comming is from a different grade of Polycarbonate ( don't ask me what - this is down to plastics Engineers).
I too am concerned with this, hence why we never released publicly the neptunes. End of day we don't want our products doing this:

This is a development block , thats showing the symptoms you are all saying is effecting the maze3 too.

Where to get this supergreen dye?

DigitalChaos · 04-23-2002, 10:06 PM

just a note on the maze3 mounting... they can only go on one way... or the edge will ride up on the plasic of the socket!

the "danger den" on the acrylic has to be on the oposite side of the plastic rise of the socket.

ECUPirate · 04-23-2002, 11:00 PM

I noticed that... I wanted to put the block upside down so the hose would run where I wanted.. no dice. Good tip for newbs, though.. that would be an easy way to fry a proc.

max007007 · 04-24-2002, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by max007007

Where to get this supergreen dye?

DigitalChaos · 04-24-2002, 12:42 AM

looks simply like antifreeze.. maybe even some dyelite to add to it

ECUPirate · 04-24-2002, 02:28 AM

I think it is the green slime they used to have on Nickelodeon.

max007007 · 04-24-2002, 02:37 AM

So where to get the dye?
Any website?

DigitalChaos · 04-24-2002, 06:03 AM

caseetc.com

04-23-2002, 11:00 PM	#157
ECUPirate Hottest Stank of them All Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC area Posts: 533	I noticed that... I wanted to put the block upside down so the hose would run where I wanted.. no dice. Good tip for newbs, though.. that would be an easy way to fry a proc. __________________ Does a radioactive cat have 18 half lifes? --Kenny my pimpin' rig: ...previously poorly cooled... 486DX-2 66mhz @ 75mhz, 4Mb ram, shared, 256Mb hard drive Onboard VGA, watercooled, of course 16-color monitor, labtec speakers, 28kbs USRobotics modem Windows XP (think about it) Maze 3, DDen GF3 block, Eheim 1250, econoline van HC, 1/2" hose w/ 5/8" fittings Comair 172mm fan

04-24-2002, 02:28 AM	#160
ECUPirate Hottest Stank of them All Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC area Posts: 533	I think it is the green slime they used to have on Nickelodeon. __________________ Does a radioactive cat have 18 half lifes? --Kenny my pimpin' rig: ...previously poorly cooled... 486DX-2 66mhz @ 75mhz, 4Mb ram, shared, 256Mb hard drive Onboard VGA, watercooled, of course 16-color monitor, labtec speakers, 28kbs USRobotics modem Windows XP (think about it) Maze 3, DDen GF3 block, Eheim 1250, econoline van HC, 1/2" hose w/ 5/8" fittings Comair 172mm fan

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max007007 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 61	So where to get the dye? Any website? __________________ My Specs http://homex.coolconnect.com/member3...ages/Specs.jpg

04-22-2002, 02:28 PM	#151
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	best way for even heating is a stove top.. or hell maybe a toaster oven, but put it in a new thread so everyone can see it. and everyone who wants to see the maze3 thread can see it.

04-22-2002, 06:37 PM	#153
EMC2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 365	Sherlock - yes, solder would provide more than enough strength for a top on a block if the surfaces were properly prepared, the strength issue was mentioned regarding Jessm's radiator fins And yes, a much higher temp is required, but that is a result of the metals in the compounds and their melting points. Jim - brazing copper is very common is quality heat exchangers for the attachment of the fins to the tubes and is used for the 2 reasons I stated (much better thermal conductivity and extra strength, tho mostly for the first reason). You can get silver brazing compounds in paste, bar, and wire forms. There are different compounds that have differing heat ranges requirements as well. Just be sure to never get the older types that have cadmium in them (extreme health hazard).

04-23-2002, 10:06 PM	#156
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	just a note on the maze3 mounting... they can only go on one way... or the edge will ride up on the plasic of the socket! the "danger den" on the acrylic has to be on the oposite side of the plastic rise of the socket.

04-24-2002, 12:42 AM	#159
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	looks simply like antifreeze.. maybe even some dyelite to add to it

04-24-2002, 06:03 AM	#162
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