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12-03-2007, 04:31 PM | #1 |
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My first Waterbock.
Hello.
I am a first time waterblock builder. And i have som questions. I am going to make a pinwaterbock with W2*D2*H6mm pins and 2mm space between the pins. the o ´s is the drillig points. ooooooo o o o o o ooooooo o o o o o ooooooo i am going to use a 2mm drill to remove the most of the copper and the 2mm mill cutter to remove the remain. So the block is going to have small V cones on the bottom of the block (v-v-v-v-v). Witch gives me the best performance? save them to get more turbolens (movement), or to mill them down so i get better flow. And the final question how thick is the best for the base (the thickness of copper between the CPU and the cooling fins) i have a Yeong Chin YCM cnc to work with so you can be as exact you want. thanks in advance. Edit* And how many 120mm rads do i need to cool a Core 2 Quad6600, 2 ATI HD2900XT, NB and mosfet? Last edited by [Snowman]; 12-03-2007 at 05:15 PM. |
12-03-2007, 07:12 PM | #2 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
As for the block I'd say you PM jaydee. He has milled tons of them. I think a 360mm (3x120) would hold your system but don't quote me on it. You may want seperate loups.
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12-03-2007, 08:31 PM | #3 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
Sounds like the same process I made this block with. http://www.procooling.com/index.php?...icles&disp=128
Base thickness depends on what kind of flow rate you are going to try. High flow rate thinner base, low flow rate thicker base. I find about a 4mm base is pretty good over all. Any thinner and I worry about flexing on some designs. Think surface area more than turbulence. The more copper to water surface area the better on these types of blocks. I was thinkng the samething on the rad as ben. 1 rad that has 3 120mm fans. |
12-04-2007, 07:29 PM | #4 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
Ok.
So if more surface i the key then i should save the drill cones. If i remove them the area is going to be 2*2=4mm2 If i leave them i vill have a cone surface of M=pi*r*1,28=4.02mm2 Then i vill have to ad the remaning flat area of A=(2*2)-(1*1*pi)=0,85mm2 So area without a con is 4mm2 And a area with a cone is 4.87mm2 So my Core 2 quad is W40mm*D40mm so to make it symetrical i have to ad 1 row of pins, thats 40*42mm = 11row with 10 pins each. Then i vill have to drill 310 holes That makes the surface on the block 1509,7mm2=310*4,87 A increase of 269,7mm2 compared if it would be plainflat. (a bit bigger then your thumbnail) And wen it coms to if its a high or low flow block. The pins is going to be standing like this. http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1033/namnlsku8.png So the water is forcet to go around evry pin (yes im going to make a beter blueprint in autocad, paint dosint cut it ) I will use 1/2 (12mm) tubing thats 113mm2 through put And i vill have 2*6*10=120mm2 in the block. The pump is going to be a danger den 12V D5 or equal. So my guess is that i vil have a thicknes of 4mm, but let the cons go down 0,8 mm extra. so 3,2mm to the cone top and 4mm to the normal surface. Dos it sound good? |
12-06-2007, 01:15 PM | #5 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
OK Iim done with the Sketchup.
http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?i...erblocktg5.jpg Im forcet to ha the "flowback system" its so tight around the socket |
12-07-2007, 04:24 AM | #6 | |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
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12-07-2007, 08:03 AM | #7 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
Maybe an O-ring groove also. Not necessary but I sure like the convenience.
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12-15-2007, 09:05 AM | #8 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
any news?
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12-17-2007, 02:15 AM | #9 | |
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Have started to make the NC program, but its a lot off coding left to do. Maby in the end of the week i will have it done. |
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01-08-2008, 06:31 AM | #10 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
I have finaly got the program done.
This friday i will start milling the block 16:00 (GMT +01.00). I will uppdate this post how the progress gos. I have esimated the time to ~120 minutes I cant go any faster then 50mm/m or els i will brake the drill. |
01-11-2008, 08:06 AM | #11 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
so i have started to millte block andit lock good.
I f**k up the zero point so the first row dosent loock god but its no big problem. |
01-11-2008, 08:27 AM | #12 | |
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maby in 2 weaks. |
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02-03-2008, 06:30 PM | #13 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
More news plz
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02-10-2008, 01:36 PM | #14 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
50% of the block is done.
I need 1 more day to complet it. maby this friday. |
02-10-2008, 04:38 PM | #15 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
Nice
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02-15-2008, 08:33 AM | #16 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
Its friday and im at work milling the block (again)
I hope this will go allot smother then the last time |
02-15-2008, 02:57 PM | #17 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
Good luck and post some pics!
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02-16-2008, 02:31 AM | #18 |
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Re: My first Waterbock.
Im DONE im done with this F**KIN CPU waterblock!
I will never again try to mill with a tiny ass 2mm drill. ondly 50% off the block is done, and i have taken so mutch time so if i workt extra insted, i coud have purchase the moste expensive Block ther is on the market. 6000 rows of code and just this one have to be wrong! The most iritating thing is that 3 difrent CNC simulators dident se it! any way i will try to compleat the block with a dremel, make a top and polich the surface ant try it. But i will try to make a HDD block, with a 5mm drill the are ALLOT more stable then the 2mm. |
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