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Unread 12-03-2007, 04:31 PM   #1
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Default My first Waterbock.

Hello.

I am a first time waterblock builder.
And i have som questions.

I am going to make a pinwaterbock with W2*D2*H6mm pins and 2mm space between the pins.
the o ´s is the drillig points.

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i am going to use a 2mm drill to remove the most of the copper and the 2mm mill cutter to remove the remain.

So the block is going to have small V cones on the bottom of the block (v-v-v-v-v).

Witch gives me the best performance? save them to get more turbolens (movement), or to mill them down so i get better flow.

And the final question how thick is the best for the base (the thickness of copper between the CPU and the cooling fins)

i have a Yeong Chin YCM cnc to work with so you can be as exact you want.
thanks in advance.

Edit*
And how many 120mm rads do i need to cool a Core 2 Quad6600, 2 ATI HD2900XT, NB and mosfet?

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Unread 12-03-2007, 07:12 PM   #2
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

As for the block I'd say you PM jaydee. He has milled tons of them. I think a 360mm (3x120) would hold your system but don't quote me on it. You may want seperate loups.
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Unread 12-03-2007, 08:31 PM   #3
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

Sounds like the same process I made this block with. http://www.procooling.com/index.php?...icles&disp=128

Base thickness depends on what kind of flow rate you are going to try. High flow rate thinner base, low flow rate thicker base.

I find about a 4mm base is pretty good over all. Any thinner and I worry about flexing on some designs.

Think surface area more than turbulence. The more copper to water surface area the better on these types of blocks.

I was thinkng the samething on the rad as ben. 1 rad that has 3 120mm fans.
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Unread 12-04-2007, 07:29 PM   #4
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

Ok.
So if more surface i the key then i should save the drill cones.

If i remove them the area is going to be 2*2=4mm2
If i leave them i vill have a cone surface of M=pi*r*1,28=4.02mm2
Then i vill have to ad the remaning flat area of A=(2*2)-(1*1*pi)=0,85mm2

So area without a con is 4mm2
And a area with a cone is 4.87mm2

So my Core 2 quad is W40mm*D40mm so to make it symetrical i have to ad 1 row of pins, thats 40*42mm = 11row with 10 pins each.
Then i vill have to drill 310 holes
That makes the surface on the block 1509,7mm2=310*4,87
A increase of 269,7mm2 compared if it would be plainflat. (a bit bigger then your thumbnail)

And wen it coms to if its a high or low flow block.
The pins is going to be standing like this.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1033/namnlsku8.png

So the water is forcet to go around evry pin (yes im going to make a beter blueprint in autocad, paint dosint cut it )

I will use 1/2 (12mm) tubing thats 113mm2 through put
And i vill have 2*6*10=120mm2 in the block.

The pump is going to be a danger den 12V D5 or equal.

So my guess is that i vil have a thicknes of 4mm, but let the cons go down 0,8 mm extra.
so 3,2mm to the cone top and 4mm to the normal surface.

Dos it sound good?
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Unread 12-06-2007, 01:15 PM   #5
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

OK Iim done with the Sketchup.
http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?i...erblocktg5.jpg
Im forcet to ha the "flowback system" its so tight around the socket
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Unread 12-07-2007, 04:24 AM   #6
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

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OK Iim done with the Sketchup.
http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?i...erblocktg5.jpg
Im forcet to ha the "flowback system" its so tight around the socket
Staggering the "pins" or fins may give you increased turbulance
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

Maybe an O-ring groove also. Not necessary but I sure like the convenience.
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any news?
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Unread 12-17-2007, 02:15 AM   #9
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

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any news?
not rely.
Have started to make the NC program, but its a lot off coding left to do.
Maby in the end of the week i will have it done.
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Unread 01-08-2008, 06:31 AM   #10
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

I have finaly got the program done.
This friday i will start milling the block 16:00 (GMT +01.00).
I will uppdate this post how the progress gos.
I have esimated the time to ~120 minutes
I cant go any faster then 50mm/m or els i will brake the drill.
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Unread 01-11-2008, 08:06 AM   #11
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

so i have started to millte block andit lock good.
I f**k up the zero point so the first row dosent loock god but its no big problem.
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Unread 01-11-2008, 08:27 AM   #12
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

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so i have started to millte block andit lock good.
I f**k up the zero point so the first row dosent loock god but its no big problem.
ok somtingis realy wrong the spedd is 1000 timesto high il have to try again later.
maby in 2 weaks.
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Unread 02-03-2008, 06:30 PM   #13
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

More news plz
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Unread 02-10-2008, 01:36 PM   #14
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

50% of the block is done.
I need 1 more day to complet it.
maby this friday.
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Unread 02-15-2008, 08:33 AM   #16
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

Its friday and im at work milling the block (again)
I hope this will go allot smother then the last time
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

Good luck and post some pics!
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Unread 02-16-2008, 02:31 AM   #18
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Default Re: My first Waterbock.

Im DONE im done with this F**KIN CPU waterblock!
I will never again try to mill with a tiny ass 2mm drill.
ondly 50% off the block is done, and i have taken so mutch time so if i workt extra insted, i coud have purchase the moste expensive Block ther is on the market.
6000 rows of code and just this one have to be wrong!
The most iritating thing is that 3 difrent CNC simulators dident se it!

any way i will try to compleat the block with a dremel, make a top and polich the surface ant try it.

But i will try to make a HDD block, with a 5mm drill the are ALLOT more stable then the 2mm.
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