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cybrsamurai 04-11-2002 05:21 PM

Eheim & Enermax
 
Heya just looking to see if anyone else has had issues connecting their Eheim pumps directly to the AC source on the inside of the power supply. I would rather not use two plugs. I had planned to use a relay to energise the pump only when the computer is on however I haven’t been able to manage even a direct connection. Whenever I try I get power through one of the leads the ground is fine but the other wire shows very low amperage when connected to the pump. When it is not connected it reads normally. I am a bit of an AC electrical neophyte so any suggestions would be appreciated.



Cybrsamurai

kemical 04-11-2002 06:03 PM

I also have an eheim and enermax and was going to set mine up like your tyring to do yours, but I opted instead to just solder the pump to the leads comming off of the IEC connector (power plug) so that the pump is always on as long as the powerstrip is turned on or the computer is plugged in. This was much easier for me and the eheim pumps are high quality and have been designed to run 24/7 in aquarium setups for ever. Also, I have read somewhere that the turning the pumps on and off puts more stress on the drive than just leaving it on. Like a light bulb. This will also reduce the strain and probably extend the life of the power supply. If you really want a switch, I would suggest putting it on the pumps AC line and mount the switch on your case, which could look really cool with a nice LED. And if your worried about pump noise from leaving it on all the time, dont be... once all the air is out of your system it will make no noise at all (It does make a little noise if you put your ear up to it, but realisticaly I cant tell that its on), I also put down some sound/vibration absorbant material on the inside of my case which also helps to eliminate the vibration of the pump, which seemed to me to be the only big source of noise I could really pin down and get rid of.

good luck!

:D

cybrsamurai 04-11-2002 06:56 PM

Thanks Kem. I will continue to try to get this thing working the way I want it. I think I will opt for not having the relay and just leave the pump on all the time.

mkosem 04-11-2002 07:47 PM

hehe, I did that with my eheim too. it's best for the pump to do that

--MAtt

MeltMan 04-11-2002 09:14 PM

Its best for all pumps to leave them running 24/7. My rio *cough* has been going strong for 4 months now. Cant even hear it.

cybrsamurai 04-11-2002 09:28 PM

Hey can you guys think of any reason why it would be necessary to use the cord that came with the Eheim pump? even if i plug bare leads directly into the wall i cannot get my pump to turn on. But if I use the cord that came with the pump it works. Im really confused.

EMC2 04-11-2002 09:45 PM

Not knowing how the AC is wired in your house - did you try reversing the hot/neutral leads from the way it doesn't work (don't know if Eheims are polarity sensitive for some strange reason)? And the silly question - did you try measuring the modified cord you are trying to use to be sure it doesn't have an open wire?

cybrsamurai 04-11-2002 09:54 PM

Does anyone here use any IM services? AIM, ICQ, Trillian, Odigo, Jabber, etc.... I am in need of some basic AC education.

cybrsamurai 04-11-2002 09:58 PM

Ok, correct me if im wrong but this is all i can figure. One of the slots on the plug is a ground the other is hot and the round thing is an extra ground. If this is not the case im more confused than I thought I was.

EMC2 04-11-2002 10:02 PM

No IM here - but in the US, one wire is "hot", one is neutral, and the bottom prong is earth (safety) ground. You could pop into the IRC channel Joe runs.

max007007 04-11-2002 10:27 PM

I think I will be getting this to save all the trouble
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Pyrotechnic 04-11-2002 10:53 PM

thats the biggest piece of shit you can buy, it will last a month on end, since a bilge pump and it's designed to run for 6-9 hours day, maybe not even that, plus they heat the water up like crazy, and it's made by OCH, plus they say if you use water wetter or any additive, it voids the warranty, just because they know it will die and you have to use some additives. i think i have made it pretty clear that OCH sucks, by all means, avoid OCH and that pump at all costs.

max007007 04-11-2002 11:22 PM

thks for your advise.
i think you really has some bad encounter with OCH products.

Pyrotechnic 04-11-2002 11:24 PM

nah, i wasn't a victim of their products, just giving some much needed advice.:D

DodgeViper 04-11-2002 11:55 PM

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I wired my Eheim pump directly to the p/s. I drilled a hole and used a small rubber gromet. I solder the pump leads to the incoming power socket on the p/s. I had planned to use the method below, but never got around to it. The pump runs 24/7

max007007 04-12-2002 12:31 AM

What is 24/7?
Anyone care to explain?

Cyco-Dude 04-12-2002 12:35 AM

sheesh do0d, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week...

ablaze 04-12-2002 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyco-Dude
sheesh do0d, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week...
give him a break. not all singaporeans are americanised like me :p

Cyco-Dude 04-12-2002 01:11 AM

hehe :p
isnt Wolfman from Virtual Hideout in Singapore as well?

Brad 04-12-2002 03:29 AM

och sucks. don't buy anything och.

as for wiring it up, I will have a guide up on it fairly soon on procooling

ablaze 04-12-2002 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyco-Dude
hehe :p
isnt Wolfman from Virtual Hideout in Singapore as well?

if he's from VH i think he probably is from SG too..:p

cybrsamurai 04-12-2002 01:15 PM

Thanks Brad. I got mine wired, but there are probably a couple more out there with AC retardedness as well.

redleader 04-12-2002 06:17 PM

Acehardware sells AC outlets for $1.50 in Tucson. I just bought one, soldered it in and then left it on the back side of my powersupply (its a miny and hooks onto the vent nicely). Now I just plugged in the pump as if to a wall socket.

This way I can still RMA the pump if needed.

Jim 04-12-2002 08:04 PM

Hey ah... if you guys need any house wiring info let me know I am an Electrical Contractor. Feel free to email me.

Also don't bypass or ignore the ground on the Eheim or anything for that matter if a fault occurs in the pump it could hurt!

The Eheim should run with reversed polarity, I think you may have had on open.

Jim

DodgeViper 04-12-2002 09:33 PM

Hey Redleader, I live in Tucson as well. I have lived in Tucson for 45 years.


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