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jaydee 02-05-2002 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by scythe
i came up with a new idea i drew it but its goin to be hard to draw on the computer its almost like the spirl only the inlet isnt in the middle and its more in the shape of a snail it starts mid way to the right then goes up for a spirl in then spirls back out to curve up to the left for the outlet
can you scan it or take a picture of the drawing? that's how I send mine to my engineer buddy!!!:D

scythe 02-05-2002 03:27 PM

no , no scanner and my brother pawned the digital camera i attempt to draw it in photoshop its a bit confusing , it looks like an optical illusion when you look at it.

scythe 02-05-2002 03:55 PM

here ya go :)
http://24.247.99.28:8080/images/block2.jpg

Brad 02-05-2002 04:09 PM

8-ball, good idea there. for the completely watercooled person you could work that into cooling the hdd's as well, without losing flow rates too much.

Scythe, I love that design, maybe jaydee/fix will feel like making one

jaydee 02-05-2002 04:39 PM

Dude that rocks!!! A duel outlet spiral. I will see if i can make up the code in the next few days.

scythe 02-05-2002 04:41 PM

i was just thinking , cut the passages in have and leave a fin down the middle of them to double the surface area and maybe if you wanted or htink it would help is to add the inlet in the center and have the fin cut the water and spirel it out to the two outlets outside have like a t connect or somthing split 1 hose into two for the outlets
http://24.247.99.28:8080/images/block2r.jpg

jaydee 02-05-2002 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scythe
i was just thinking , cut the passages in have and leave a fin down the middle of them to double the surface area and maybe if you wanted or htink it would help is to add the inlet in the center and have the fin cut the water and spirel it out to the two outlets outside have like a t connect or somthing split 1 hose into two for the outlets
http://24.247.99.28:8080/images/block2r.jpg

I think you will run out of room. I don't have tooling to do those small passes. Maybe Fixittt can figure that one out. Might make a good addition to his original Spiral.

Brad 02-05-2002 05:46 PM

yeah, I think the centre channel is probably getting to be a little too much now...

scythe 02-05-2002 06:15 PM

ok hey i guess we found our medium didnt we :) what ever works

jaydee 02-05-2002 06:16 PM

I am picking up a drill press tomorrow and will start using it to do all my drilling being I am tired of changing the collet to the chuck on my mill. It isn't easy on this mill. I found a nice 5speed drill press on sale for $40.00!!! Was $80.00 I hope they still have them in stock when I get there. That will make drilling the mounting holes easier because I can make a jig to get them perfect everytime with the greatest of ease. I think this block is going to do pretty good. My expectation are high. ialready milled out the two side outlets spots aswell. i am first going to use them as in and out, and then I will put a center inlet and the other as the outlet.

jaydee 02-05-2002 06:23 PM

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EMC2 02-05-2002 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116

I think you will run out of room. I don't have tooling to do those small passes. Maybe Fixittt can figure that one out. Might make a good addition to his original Spiral.

The split flow spiral Scythe posted would take right at 2" as shown using 1/8" channels and 30mil wall thickness between channels, a .375" center circular chamber and an outermost wall thickness of 67.5 mils ;)

Even if you don't split the channels in two, the concept of splitting the flow two ways is a good one. Maybe later I'll do up a drawing and show why from a thermal standpoint...

(wanders back off into the blue)

scythe 02-05-2002 07:22 PM

if someone makes my block and if it have some nice decent performance i will buy it off of them :)

jaydee 02-05-2002 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by EMC2


The split flow spiral Scythe posted would take right at 2" as shown using 1/8" channels and 30mil wall thickness between channels, a .375" center circular chamber and an outermost wall thickness of 67.5 mils ;)

Even if you don't split the channels in two, the concept of splitting the flow two ways is a good one. Maybe later I'll do up a drawing and show why from a thermal standpoint...

(wanders back off into the blue)

That is what I was thinking. I only have 1.5" to work with and still be able to get a seal around it. Maybe 1.75" If I push it. a 2" peice pretty much maxes out my vise for the mill anyway, not to mention 2" wide is just right for Socket A boards as anymore and you will have to mill the bottom of the block to fit around the hump on the end of the socket.

Brad 02-05-2002 08:39 PM

have you thought about taking out a couple of mm for that hump thingee on the socket lever action? I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard. Then you have 60mm to play with

http://24.247.99.28:8080/images/block2.jpg

that is still my fav one so far

jaydee 02-05-2002 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Brad
have you thought about taking out a couple of mm for that hump thingee on the socket lever action? I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard. Then you have 60mm to play with

http://24.247.99.28:8080/images/block2.jpg

that is still my fav one so far

I can't but maybe Fixittt can. My vise only opens 2" so that is as wide of material I can get in there. I don't have the travel on the table to do much morethan a 2" peice anyway. Fixitts mill is larger than mine so it should work on his. I also like that first one!!!

scythe 02-05-2002 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Brad
have you thought about taking out a couple of mm for that hump thingee on the socket lever action? I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard. Then you have 60mm to play with

http://24.247.99.28:8080/images/block2.jpg

that is still my fav one so far

haha thanks im really glad people actually like my idea and are interested , maybe i'll come up with an even better one later since i'll be on the toliet all night the steak i ate for dinner JUST doesnt want to go quietly. toliets a good spot for thinking.

Brad 02-05-2002 09:34 PM

the best thing about your idea is that you can run it with just one inlet and one outlet and it would still perform fairly good.

Also, it wouldn't be too hard to mod one to have 2 inlets and 2 outlets, with all the water flowing through the centre

scythe 02-05-2002 09:58 PM

i hope someone makes one or a bunch. id be making one right now if i had the tools

jaydee 02-05-2002 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by scythe
i hope someone makes one or a bunch. id be making one right now if i had the tools
hehehe, I would think about it but I need to finish the 3 new designs I have already started!!!:D

scythe 02-05-2002 10:02 PM

no pressure no pressure *sprays jaydee with a hose*

jaydee 02-05-2002 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by scythe
no pressure no pressure *sprays jaydee with a hose*
i can finish the two Al ones by this weekend but the Copper one will take a few months.:( I need new bits for Copper and they are not cheap. I don't want to drop the cash untill work picks up more stabily. Al bits are cheap though. I just want to find a 1/64" one to do tiny fins with.

scythe 02-05-2002 10:12 PM

i really wish i had mill ,id probaly get 2 done a day since , um i dont do anything all day sleep till 4pm then get on computer hmm maybe i should get a job....nah. seriously dont rush it

Brad 02-05-2002 10:45 PM

ehh, forget the copper versions, do them all in Al, until you find a design you can't beat, then do that one in Cu.

Also, a 1/64" bit would be awesome, I'm thinking dynatron 60 fin heatsinks right now

jaydee 02-05-2002 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by Brad


Also, a 1/64" bit would be awesome, I'm thinking dynatron 60 fin heatsinks right now

:eek: :eek: That would be damn cool but i don't think my mill has it in it. It would take hours to make just one and I would fry my motor!!!:D

I still havn't figured out how they mass produce those one peice HS's.


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