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bikr 03-27-2003 03:22 PM

i agree with iroc's non text statement.. bsd for life =) If you want to stick with linux , the new mandrake should work fine for you , don't go redhat you'll have more problems then you originated with.. --Josh

mfpmax 03-27-2003 07:16 PM

Chuck is bang'n Tux!!!

airspirit 03-28-2003 12:28 PM

So far, Mandrake 9.1 runs smooth and is gorgeous ... now I'm going to try to install my shiz ... I'll let you know the results when I'm done bludgeoning myself to death with a stapler.

airspirit 03-28-2003 01:46 PM

Okay, I've been using KDE 3.1 and it is wonderful. Mozilla 1.3 comes preinstalled (very nice), and so far I have Crossover Plugin/Office installed, XPde (which I'm prolly not going to use, since KDE 3.1 is nicer to use so far ... except for the wonderful file manager included in XPde) is up and available, and things are starting to look good. I suspect that some of my problems were associated with using Ext2 instead of Ext3 ... I was constantly getting file errors under Ext2. So far, even though I occasionally get errors during installs (directory can't be created, etc), everything is working fine. Also, Mandrake 9.1 detected EVERY piece of hardware I use and autoconfigured it. I would highly recommend this to anyone looking for a desktop OS.

Now I gotta get WineX, Office2000, and War3x running, and I'll be all set.

Yo-DUH_87 03-28-2003 01:58 PM

I think I might try mandrake 9.1, as well as the new redhat 9.0 (when it comes out), just to test the waters.

Besides, my linux machine's hard drive decided to erase all my partitions a few days ago, so I'll be starting fresh :D

I heard that mandrake knows how to read off of (but not write to) NTFS, have you tried that yet?

bikr 03-28-2003 02:29 PM

you can read and write to NTFS in redhat as well , but it's a pain in the ass to setup. --Bikr

airspirit 03-28-2003 02:54 PM

I'd do some searching on that on the Mandrake site ... they have an obscene amount of resources there. I do know that it probably will require you to install and configure Samba, among other stuff. I'm working to do the same thing ....

At work, I'm going to attempt to put our main fileserver on Linux one of these days, and it would be helpful to know these things, hehe.

BTW: can XP even read off of a Linux partition? I've not been able to make it happen.

Yo-DUH_87 03-28-2003 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by airspirit
I'd do some searching on that on the Mandrake site ... they have an obscene amount of resources there. I do know that it probably will require you to install and configure Samba, among other stuff. I'm working to do the same thing ....

At work, I'm going to attempt to put our main fileserver on Linux one of these days, and it would be helpful to know these things, hehe.

BTW: can XP even read off of a Linux partition? I've not been able to make it happen.

I know 2000 refuses to see linux as a valid partition, so I can only assume that XP would do the same.

bikr 03-28-2003 03:01 PM

you need to use ext2fs , the best one i've used is

http://www.ext2fs-anywhere.com/

it's from paragon , you can probably find a copy somewhere. otherwise you may have to buy it , but it works wonderful! --JOsh

bikr 03-28-2003 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yo-DUH_87
I know 2000 refuses to see linux as a valid partition, so I can only assume that XP would do the same.

Correct it won't see it without 3rd party software but 100% possible

airspirit 03-28-2003 03:27 PM

After the crap I've been through with Ext2, I'll never use it again. The site says they've recently implemented Ext3 support, but I don't see anything that supports that claim. Interesting idea, though, and very worthwhile. Do you know of any products that'll handle Ext3?

bikr 03-28-2003 03:38 PM

The newest version of Ext2fs anywhere, can mount both ext2 and ext3 partitions -- josh

phreenet 03-28-2003 05:26 PM

Quote:

you can read and write to NTFS in redhat as well , but it's a pain in the ass to setup. --Bikr

The newer verions of Redhat don't support NTFS as a valid mounting platform.

I would just use ext3 or xfs as a file system and not mess with any ext2 stuff.

bikr 03-28-2003 05:29 PM

here , thought you might wanna have a gander.. as I said it's a pain in the ass , but it can be done..


http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/redhat.html

gmat 03-28-2003 07:08 PM

XFS is the way to go - light years ahead. But you won't read that with from Microsoft systems without some serious 3rd party program... Anyway if that's not a consideration, XFS is currently the most advanced, performant, stable and sturdy file system available for Linux.

airspirit 03-28-2003 11:47 PM

Dudes, I've got Mandrake 9.1 installed on my home machine. This is the first distro I've seen that has full support and compatability with the NForce2 platform. Very nice. I have Crossover Office/Plugin installed (along with Office 2000, TTFs, IE [*gasp*], and assorted other junk ... hehe ... I'm a sucker for Word and Excel), Opera, Mozilla, and EVERY package that came with the distro. I've configured every server and set up every service. This distro seems very easy and compatible with everything. I highly recommend it. Unlike the nightmare of Mandrake 9, this is very slick. The best part is that it actually does as it is told, and does what it says its going to do ... fancy that, eh?

mfpmax 03-29-2003 04:24 AM

Isn't Mandrake going under?

airspirit 03-29-2003 09:59 AM

They did, and are "restructuring" now. They'll be around a while.

mfpmax 03-30-2003 03:15 AM

I remember back when the creator used to just work on Enlightenment Window Manager and then he moved to the East Coast of the US working for RedHat.

Those were the days.

airspirit 03-31-2003 03:56 PM

9.1 is doing so well that I'm migrating two of the machines at work to it. This will be an interesting experiment.

mfpmax 03-31-2003 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by airspirit
9.1 is doing so well that I'm migrating two of the machines at work to it. This will be an interesting experiment.
We just switched their Operating System to DeCaf...lets see if they notice the difference.

Can O' Beans 04-01-2003 06:14 AM

Heh heh. :)



Personally, I like Gentoo, a little more hands-on, but takes longer to compile programs though. Slackware & Debian are good as well. RedHat & Especially Mandrake are almost as bloated as windows :rolleyes:

FreeBSD 5.0 is running on my server - very nice OS, but due to it being a new release, there are some problems here & there.

airspirit 04-01-2003 09:41 AM

Yeah, Mandrake is pretty bloated and I wouldn't EVER dream of running a full install of it for a strong server, but for a common user or for a casual server, it is sooooo easy to use.

bigben2k 04-01-2003 10:04 AM

Ya'll are in for a shock! Microsoft found a way to get rid of all its problems, and put itself in a favorable position with Intel:

Microsoft buys Linux!

Yo-DUH_87 04-01-2003 10:13 AM

April 1st, nice try ;)

I read that one already, linked from a Linux support forum.

Reason I was at the Linux support forum, is in attempting to install Mandrake 9.1, it gives a "floppy mount error," and loops back into selecting packages. Weird... I'll try putting a floppy in the system later.


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