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buzzby 04-21-2004 08:34 AM

WOW once again wished i didn't live in UK so i could experiment with this kind of stuff.

Also can someone plese tell me what CNC stands for as i have no clue.

Great work

Buzz

MMZ_TimeLord 04-21-2004 08:36 AM

Computer Numerical Control ... I think. :p

Basically it's a computer controlled X-Y-Z axis setup... you can also have a 4th axis (rotation) and a 5th... although that's where it all gets fuzzy to me. :D

jaydee 04-21-2004 09:34 AM

Flow rate increased with the wider inlet. Temps increased aswell because of lack of volocity over the core of the CPU.

There is no stagnate water in this block.

This is a dual outlet block? Note the holes on both sides of the jet?

Temps are irrelevant as they are relative.

JFettig 04-21-2004 05:33 PM

Jaydee, why dont ya give a nozzle just like the WW nozzle a shot? it might make the water go in little different directions and help a little.


Jon

jaydee 04-21-2004 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFettig
Jaydee, why dont ya give a nozzle just like the WW nozzle a shot? it might make the water go in little different directions and help a little.


Jon

Will do. Also going to make one with a jet dropping down each hole drilled. :) Unfortunatly this will not happen for a while though. Headed out of town for a 2-3 week job.

JFettig 04-21-2004 10:31 PM

what kind of job takes 2-3 weeks?
Jaydee, are you a hitman;)

Maybe try a smaller jet, maybe with a 3/32" slot instead of 1/8?

Jon

jaydee 04-21-2004 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFettig
what kind of job takes 2-3 weeks?
Jaydee, are you a hitman;)

Maybe try a smaller jet, maybe with a 3/32" slot instead of 1/8?

Jon

My company Builds all of the Costco Whosale gas station canopies in the USA. Got a big one to do in Poway CA. I am the crew leader on this once again so I will be busy busy busy. Good news it is right next to San Diego. Might go down to the beach on Sunday (only day off) if the weather is good.

Yup, agree on the size change. I think I will start with 1/16" and work my way up. I need to order more endmills anyway to make the "Cascade" style jet setup. Also just simply need more sizes. :D

Jonas 04-22-2004 06:04 PM

just out of curiosity what type of cnc mill are you using? also i have seen before here that some of you guys are 'borrowing' time on machines at your places of employment...just curious what machines everyone is using :)


btw anyone presetting thier tools? some of the designes on here are pretty damn complex, and since i just got into the presetting industry i wonder if anyone here messes with that stuff.

Zoller is who i work for now btw...

jaydee 04-22-2004 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonas
just out of curiosity what type of cnc mill are you using? also i have seen before here that some of you guys are 'borrowing' time on machines at your places of employment...just curious what machines everyone is using :)


btw anyone presetting thier tools? some of the designes on here are pretty damn complex, and since i just got into the presetting industry i wonder if anyone here messes with that stuff.

Zoller is who i work for now btw...

http://www.acumotion.com/cnc_pro_mill_options.shtml Is what I got. All 36lbs! :D

Presetting tools? Whats that about?

JFettig 04-22-2004 10:28 PM

Jaydees mill is pretty tiny, Im suprised it has held up for him like it has.

My mill weighs like 200lbs, its cast iron and pretty rigid, lacks travel in the Y axis.

Presetting tools would be really nice, it woudl require a tool holder that always has the same depth for the tools.

Presetting tools requires you to find the length of the tools, then setting zero at something known and offsetting it for each tool. Its just in the Z axis. I sure wish I had some end mill holders, but I am pretty content with setting the Z axis manually.

I am using a seige X2, its working pretty good, I just dont like how little travel it has, otherwize I would be VERY satisfied(btw, I converted it to cnc, no more manual mill for me:D)

Jon

jaydee 04-22-2004 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFettig

Presetting tools requires you to find the length of the tools, then setting zero at something known and offsetting it for each tool. Its just in the Z axis. I sure wish I had some end mill holders, but I am pretty content with setting the Z axis manually.



Jon

Ahhh, preset tools. Just didn't register for some reason. My next mill will be setup for this being it will be for production.

Jonas 04-23-2004 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaydee116
Ahhh, preset tools. Just didn't register for some reason. My next mill will be setup for this being it will be for production.


heh, well its not just for the z axis, but then it depends on what you are doing...

usually the objective is to set or verify a tools actual dimensions from a fixed xero point generally using tool holders of some type and certified adapters. All the big guys do this to prevent nasty things like head crashes and scrap parts.

I will tell you guys this 99% of the time your 1/2" endmill is not actually 1/2" let alone all the flutes being the same height and of course concentricity is an issue as well.

generally people use our presetters for some combination of tool management, tool inspection, and measurement. Its been a very interesting job change for me, sending me in a whole new direction. I've already been some very cool places like Boeing in wichita, and Magna in aurora ontario. Even a few scary places like the facility in TN where they actually assembled the first atomic bombs, and still do 'various' things with nukes and radioactive materials...

dima y 04-24-2004 12:25 AM

i belive pressetting tool is most beneficial on mill with ATC's (automatic tool changer) this way you can have ALOT of different tool and the mill knows how to use each one!

jaydee 05-23-2004 05:42 PM

Update.

I had some time o nthe mill this weekend and decided to mill a middle peice and a top peice. Middle peice is acrylic and the top is Lexan (thanks to BlackEagle).

Here it is mounted with the Copper top.
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/pjx/0006.jpg

And todays pics. Sorry they are kinds large I will try and edit them when i get a chance. Going to mount it here tonight or tomorrow.
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/pjx/0001.jpg
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/pjx/0002.jpg
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/pjx/0003.jpg
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/pjx/0004.jpg
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/pjx/0005.jpg

I made the middle peice so I can change jet designs. This is the same configuration as the copper top. I didn't have time to make the different jet peices I wanted to make. Next on the list though. Pics kinda suck.

jaydee 05-23-2004 09:41 PM

Mounted it. As the air was bleeding I was watching the air bubbles flow through the channels and it is doing exactly what I intended it to do. Flow is splitting evenly to both outlets throuhg all the channels.

http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/pjx/0007.jpg

wshost.Shorty 05-23-2004 10:42 PM

looks awesome!

msv 05-24-2004 01:02 AM

Do You have the springs on the backside of the motherboard? It seems a little too bold to run without them.
regards
Mikael S.

G33k 05-24-2004 01:31 AM

Running without springs is no big deal.. just takes a bit of patience to fine tune the mounting :)

jaydee 05-24-2004 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msv
Do You have the springs on the backside of the motherboard? It seems a little too bold to run without them.
regards
Mikael S.

I never use springs.

RedPhoenix 08-15-2004 02:33 PM

Bitchin. How is it working out?

( Little off topic, where do you get those finger gold nuts )

jaydee 08-17-2004 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
Bitchin. How is it working out?

( Little off topic, where do you get those finger gold nuts )

It works. How well I am not to sure. Will be sending to pH some day. To many other things on the to do list right now.

I got the knurled brass nuts locally at ACE hardware.


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