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Jigglypuff 07-15-2004 06:44 AM

Aesthetics. I personally prefer it that way.

SlaterSpeed 07-15-2004 10:46 AM

Listen to Jon

(He must be a genious to think of that, Right?) :p

Stang_Man 07-15-2004 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by funbun
Dude, why not just makem out of brass. That way you won't have to worry about corrosion or anodizing. :dome:

aluminum will not corrode...

nikhsub1 07-15-2004 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang_Man
aluminum will not corrode...

Really? Raw aluminum + copper or brass or silver = corrosion pretty darn quick.

BillA 07-15-2004 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JFettig
I thought about doing this too man:p I actually made one for someone. one thing you shoudl do is knurl them so you can actually get them off;)


Jon

good thinking geek

greenman100 07-15-2004 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nikhsub1
Really? Raw aluminum + copper or brass or silver = corrosion pretty darn quick.


my thoughts also, but the producer refuses to anodize

BillA 07-15-2004 07:34 PM

and disturbed corrosion product will drop into the fluid
not good

why not make them from pp or nylon ?

Butcher 07-15-2004 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered
and disturbed corrosion product will drop into the fluid
not good

why not make them from pp or nylon ?

Higher bling factor on metal - people like things polished up.
I'd only buy brass or copper though, or maybe stainless steel - too much corrosion risk with Al.

Stang_Man 07-15-2004 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by greenman100
my thoughts also, but the producer refuses to anodize

would you pay 2x as much for a cap if they were?

Cathar 07-15-2004 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang_Man
would you pay 2x as much for a cap if they were?

Uh, you're selling them for what? US$8?

Here in the land of Oz I could get something sized like those caps shiny nickel plated for around ~US$0.25c each in quantities of 50 and over, and I know that basic colored anodising can be done for cheaper. Silver plated they'd cost around $1 each.

I think you should consider what people are asking you and investigate the costs. Anodising, nor even nickel plating, costs anything like what you're saying. Heck, I could get those things solid gold plated for less than what you're saying it would cost just to get them anodised.

jaydee 07-15-2004 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cathar
Uh, you're selling them for what? US$8?

Here in the land of Oz I could get something sized like those caps shiny nickel plated for around ~US$0.25c each in quantities of 50 and over, and I know that basic colored anodising can be done for cheaper. Silver plated they'd cost around $1 each.

I think you should consider what people are asking you and investigate the costs. Anodising, nor even nickel plating, costs anything like what you're saying. Heck, I could get those things solid gold plated for less than what you're saying it would cost just to get them anodised.

I will back that up. Had a similar request when I worked at Stamp Works. Wasn't for PC water cooling but the use was the same. Pricing turned out similar to Cathars quotes above. They ended up droping the idea and going with standard PVC caps painted in the colors they wanted.

SlaterSpeed 07-16-2004 01:42 AM

Id just buy a plating kit and do it myself. Probably works out more expencive like that but less hassle of having to send them away to get it done.

Kobuchi 07-16-2004 02:28 AM

Can you make an attractive version of THIS?

A cam pivots on threaded rod passing through rubber tube, terminates with (threaded, adjustable) washer. Tightening the cam draws the washer up, expanding the rubber. These are so easy and effective. But only available in utility or soda pop styles. Perhaps you could design a cool aluminum version for the watercooling crowd?

Stang_Man 07-16-2004 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathar
Uh, you're selling them for what? US$8?

Here in the land of Oz I could get something sized like those caps shiny nickel plated for around ~US$0.25c each in quantities of 50 and over, and I know that basic colored anodising can be done for cheaper. Silver plated they'd cost around $1 each.

I think you should consider what people are asking you and investigate the costs. Anodising, nor even nickel plating, costs anything like what you're saying. Heck, I could get those things solid gold plated for less than what you're saying it would cost just to get them anodised.

i'm charging enough to cover production costs and shipping costs.

these caps cost me no where near 25 cents a piece to produce.. :eek:


i'll look deeper into anodizing, most likely black anodization. i'll see what i can do guys.. it's hard as hell manufacturing in CT, where you have to fight for machine time, materials cost, and machine setup and production... and struggle to make enough just to pay the rent and bills :(

Cathar 07-16-2004 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stang_Man
i'm charging enough to cover production costs and shipping costs.

these caps cost me no where near 25 cents a piece to produce.. :eek:

I said that nickel plating would cost around 25c, not the caps themselves.

You could get all 50 bright nickel plated, which would prevent corrosion and be shiny as all heck, for around 25c each if you got all 50 done at once.

BillA 07-16-2004 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kobuchi
Can you make an attractive version of THIS?
. . . . . .

this is the winner
with case sides . . . . . no bling bling needed

Stang_Man 07-16-2004 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathar
I said that nickel plating would cost around 25c, not the caps themselves.

You could get all 50 bright nickel plated, which would prevent corrosion and be shiny as all heck, for around 25c each if you got all 50 done at once.


guys, i got good news. after looking around, i've found a company local to me that will be able to CLEAR ANODIZE the caps, for a lot cheaper price than i have been quoted for years, which is the same process as any other color. we're good to go :D

the other company i used to go to always had a starting price that was really high for high volume. they never did quantities <200

dacooltech 07-16-2004 11:24 AM

So what's wrong with the nylon or polypro female [EDIT]typed ' female ' 2 times - dunno what's wrong with me LOL [/EDIT] barbed connectors and caps that we've been using for the last couple of years?

http://cooltechnica.com/Merchant2/gr...ee_Cap-125.jpg

http://www.cooltechnica.com/personal...iprobe-640.jpg

am I missing something here ??

nikhsub1 07-16-2004 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dacooltech
So what's wrong with the female nylon or polypro female barbed connectors and caps that we've been using for the last couple of years?

am I missing something here ??

Yes, bruce, it is all about the bling factor. :D

BillA 07-16-2004 11:38 AM

Bruce wins on cost, SMan on bling bling;
for convience I still prefer the soda bottle stopper
my 2¢

dacooltech 07-16-2004 11:39 AM

ahh OK yes the bling bling factor LOL :)

Butcher 07-16-2004 11:56 AM

I use a spare 1/4" NPT brass end cap I had kicking about - it's a pretty good fit for a 1/2" ID tube.

BillA 07-16-2004 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dacooltech
ahh OK yes the bling bling factor LOL :)

in thinking about it, the bottle stopper will strech the tubing over time = not reliable

Cooltechnia wins on cost, and reliability is a push (with hose clamps on both)
screw the bling bling, my 2¢

pHaestus 07-16-2004 12:19 PM

I ran my system for a year or so with a piece of grey artist's eraser stuck in the top of the bleed line lol. Doesn't dry out in air, didn't degrade in contact with ww, and was the closest thing to me when I set it up the first time.

Stang_Man 07-16-2004 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by unregistered
in thinking about it, the bottle stopper will strech the tubing over time = not reliable

Cooltechnia wins on cost, and reliability is a push (with hose clamps on both)
screw the bling bling, my 2¢

people spend tons of money on making their cases look cool, and then plug it up with some junky plastic piece that ruins the rest of the look. that's my opinion, and a reason why i made a cap for myself, cause i didn't want to use all the low quality looking stuff in a rig that's top of the line, everything looking great.

come on, you work for Swiftech, if the stuff didn't look good as it performs, how much business would you lose? because there is the performance oriented who dont care for looks, there is the people who take a little of both, and then there is people who just make waterblocks that look awesome and dont have much performance..


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