AFAIK, nobody here has actually seen one of these in person or done any testing on one - so while we can offer opinions, we can't make definate statements on performance. However, if a dozen people were interested in finding out, and they all sent $5 to pH, he could buy one and test it... maybe then he could even sell/auction it off and get the donator's money back.

honestly i think it would be a waste of money to even test. if they want to send one to ph then we will see the true performance. honestly i think they dont want it revealed. they use alot of smoke and mirrors talking about their block and offer very little data. when you see this with the flashy appearance it generally means they are just trying to design something that looks like it works well. if they were serious about making a top end product dont you think they would want everyone to know?

I agree with your assumptions 100%, but it is just conjecture at this point

Thats what makes me want to see it tested :D

At this point they'd claim "sour grapes because we didn't send a block for testing" if I bought one. I would say just let the test data on their website speak for itself

Did you not read the review from [H]? Did you not see the inner design?
http://www.hardocp.com/images/articl...VCw_1_12_l.jpg
I don't care if I don't have one in hand. Personal experience from building and designing blocks tells me the design sucks. [H]'s review backs it up even if it isn't perfect. If PolorFlo wants an honest test they will send it. The block has to prove it is worth $60 before anyone should devote any money torwards one....

Very bad design. Even I know that.. and I havent made any waterblocks.

I did read the review, I did see the pictures, and if you look, I've been skeptical all along... but I'd rather be a skeptic with facts than one without.
pH raises a good point though, so I guess the issue is dead.

Fact is the design is poor. :p It is not a guess. ;) You just don't want to take my word for it which is fine. Doesn't change the fact though.

This outfit reminds me of the now defunk CPUFX. Top notch machining ability but no concept of block design.

Not gonna happen it looks like unless you or I pony up the money:

How much of an annual review budget would you need in order to purchase blocks that companies won't send you. I'd be willing to throw a few bucks your way, seeing as I probably save a ton of money not buying crap once I read your look overs.

It would be preferable to have someone in the US buy them and then send to me as a gift. If I have to buy this wb from PolarFLO then I pay for the wb, pay for international shipping, and then pay for "duty". Figure $100US by the time it's done? How would that work? ALL wbs be purchased retail? That'd be fine but expensive. Only wbs purchased I can't get donated? That is more efficient but could prompt complaints of bias. What do you guys suggest?

What about asking resellers for a review sample in exchange for a banner/plug on the review?

First off, what bias. Will OEMs complain that the blocks we had to purchase received a poorer score than they should have? Personally, I have more faith in your testing than that.

Honestly, I don't care too much what the rest of "them" think. The only negative is the amount of energy we seem to waste fighting with people who are complaining, but that is an issue we can take care of by simply not fighting. We can always offer to re-test a block if they want to send an additional one.

I favor the cost effective approach, unless enough of us can band together and share the burden - or if we auction off some of the block (I seem to recall that thread. You mentioned you like to keep the blocks incase of test bed changes and retests and the like.) I'd actually rather us buy all of the blocks, since thats what joe-consumer will be buying and therefore is more representative of the actual product - no chance of a ringer being added to the mix.

Personally, I would be very willing to kick in $10/month to help support WB testing. I'm sure there are a few more people out there willing to do the same.

If you need a US connection to resend to ya, then I can help there too.

hey, lets just do it - $20 sent
via Paypal acct e-mail: phaestus@procooling.com

Way to lead bill. $20 from me too.

eh, what the hell, $20

haha you guys are crazy

Shit it doesn't look like they have a Socket A version?

What now?

hahaha
typical

Guess it will have to wait for the die sim?

Find a different block that we haven't tested yet and can't seem to get?

Or use it for a the testbed upgrade fund.

sounds like the best idea - checking the other thread it seems that these donations should cover the "Beer" Subsection of items to be purchased.

$50 sent :D

oh shi

what has been started here?
Maybe I should just go buy a socket 754 mobo and CPU for testing lol

From the PolarFLO website:

I don't see why I couldn't just drill the appropriate holes and cut the holddown to size and mount the wb same as any other 4 hole socket a block.

Do you?

ok ?
but you have to use HIS hold-down = a busted mobo
LOL

how you intending to address ?

shit I am wrong anyway. No way it'll clear the cam box on socket A

It's a large mofo.

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?im...8xM19sLmpwZw==

Could also use my "big hunk" die sim I suppose... Or get off ass and finish a proper one

ck that the OD leaves room for the mobo holes is all
- but if so, why did PF not do so ?
-> and what does any modding do to the percieved accuracy ?

I like the A64 idea, but the mounting precludes it

EDIT: ah, yea me too - forgot the cam box

I've been itching to upgrade to AMD64 ever since I saw where the pins are located for the diode :)

Well Socket 754 is pretty affordable now, but it would lead to a bunch of questions.. like A64 Desktop (with IHS) or A64 Mobile (no IHS) and what about having to retest everything you've done in the past...

I think a real die sim setup is the way to go (worst short term, best long term)

lol
mine was labeled "beer $"

agreed, work on the die sim