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jontz 09-24-2006 07:26 AM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix32
Well, now I know who outbid me at least...

Maybe you and I need to go in on one now...you supply the brains and the money, I will supply the...uhhhh...I'll think of something....

blue68f100 09-24-2006 08:09 AM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
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Not if you do a full reset. They come up with no IP address and you have to use assist to find it and do the initial setup.
That not all true for the Guardian OS units. They default to 10.10.10.10 if it does not see a dhcp server. Not the 0.0.0.0 like the SnapOS.

blue68f100 09-24-2006 08:14 AM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
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Maybe you and I need to go in on one now...you supply the brains and the money, I will supply the...uhhhh...I'll think of something....
Now I have to come up with the 4 drives. I have 2 120's I will use to play with. With Fry's selling the 400 gigs for $109 it want be to bad. Still $200 cheaper than Adaptec price for 1 w/sled $629.

jontz 09-24-2006 04:21 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue68f100
That not all true for the Guardian OS units. They default to 10.10.10.10 if it does not see a dhcp server. Not the 0.0.0.0 like the SnapOS.

I was referring to the snap units, not the guardian OS units.

jontz 09-24-2006 04:22 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue68f100
Now I have to come up with the 4 drives. I have 2 120's I will use to play with. With Fry's selling the 400 gigs for $109 it want be to bad. Still $200 cheaper than Adaptec price for 1 w/sled $629.

$629? Good LORD that's salty.

Hallis 09-24-2006 06:13 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix32
Well, now I know who outbid me at least...


Na, this auction ended with no bids, And i contacted the seller directly.

Shane

Phoenix32 09-24-2006 08:54 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Musta missed that one...

Hallis 09-25-2006 06:44 AM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jontz
Not if you do a full reset. They come up with no IP address and you have to use assist to find it and do the initial setup.

Good luck with the 4500 project! I didn't see the auction...what did you end up paying for it? (no drives, I assume)...

This will make you sick. $225 shipped. And it has a 10-bay expansion with it. With all cables and software. :)

longshot 09-28-2006 02:39 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Hehe I can beat that price mine was free, we are decomming ours at work and they were gonna trash untill I said I wanted it. It currently has 4x250's but I wanna push it up to the highest it can go.

re3dyb0y 09-28-2006 02:43 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Many people have obtained them like that

From colleges or places of work

longshot 09-28-2006 02:52 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Yup and its great!

Hallis 09-28-2006 02:55 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Thats actually how the person i got mine from got theirs. Was gonna get tossed. If i worked for a company that did that id have to have my own 19" rack setup for all my hardware.

jontz 09-28-2006 04:20 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallis
This will make you sick. $225 shipped. And it has a 10-bay expansion with it. With all cables and software. :)

BLAAAAAHHHHHHH! :cry:

Glad you got a deal on it! I can't complain, I got my 4100 for $112...

blue68f100 09-28-2006 04:22 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Longshot,
Quote:

It currently has 4x250's but I wanna push it up to the highest it can go.
You will be in unchartered waters. The 4500 can come with 4 x 400gig. These Guardian units have just started coming through here for the last couple of months. Since SnapAppliance new the SnapOS units were being hacked. They may have put limits in the OS, to stop this activity.

So any info you can pass on to us here will be greatly appriciated.

What kind of noise does the 4500 unit generate, with the P4 and 4 HD. 35+ dba

longshot 09-28-2006 04:43 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
hmmm.... maybee I will buy 4 400GB drives and upgrade my 4500 to 1.6TB then use the 4 250's in the 4500 currently to upgrade my 4000 to 1TB. I am guess that if I delete any RAID config on the 4500 making them all standalone 250GB drives I could swap them out for 400's one at a time untill i get all four in it.

I cant gauge the noise because it is still in my Data Center running as I have een too lazy to derack it yet.

Jason

cianwill 09-28-2006 08:17 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
longshot,

You can deffinately put 400's in it. I tried that out with my 4200 and it was no problem.

Phoenix32 09-28-2006 11:53 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
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Originally Posted by jontz

BLAAAAAHHHHHHH! :cry:

Glad you got a deal on it! I can't complain, I got my 4100 for $112...

Not me, I was furious with envy... :mad: j/k :D

I watched two 4100's with 240GB in them and looked to be in great shape and from a seller with 100% rating for less than $100 each today... I was tempted, but my meger $ are dedicated to another venture. Right Shane? ;)

Hallis 09-29-2006 06:11 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix32
Not me, I was furious with envy... :mad: j/k :D

I watched two 4100's with 240GB in them and looked to be in great shape and from a seller with 100% rating for less than $100 each today... I was tempted, but my meger $ are dedicated to another venture. Right Shane? ;)


Indeed, As might some of mine depending on how the wheels of fate turn. I hope i end up with one of them :p

Shane

longshot 10-16-2006 01:13 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Well I have done some research and the maximum Guardian OS limit is "Maximum file system/file size is: 10M/TB, 9M/TB respectively" so i think I am gonna try a 4x750GB build and see how it goes.

I currently have 2 750GB drives now I need one more to try a Raid 5 out.

blue68f100 10-16-2006 04:05 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
At least some one has deep pockets.

That will be a interesting test on size drives that can be installed. But actual space with 3 750 is less than 4 at 400 gig. It's the 4th one that will be interesting.

Remember : RAID 5 capacity is sum -1 drive. So you will need a 4th drive.

longshot 10-16-2006 09:01 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Well I am procuring a 4th 750gb drive and it should be here next week. I will wait and do a 4x750 gb for 3TB Raw and about 2.1TB of usable disk space. Thanks for the tip Blue but lucky for me I have been dealing with RAID for years.

blue68f100 10-17-2006 08:55 AM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Do you know if the Guardian OS will report if any hardware has changed from factory? Like differnet size drives?

It did not with my 120gig, that I used to get mine booted.

longshot 10-17-2006 11:58 AM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
I am not sure I understand your question.

Hallis 10-17-2006 12:12 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
He's wondering if the Guardian OS will complain if you install larger drives then what came in the system. and report it to Adaptec.

Shane

longshot 10-17-2006 02:16 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
good question i guess we will find out soon enough.

longshot 10-18-2006 10:03 AM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
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so far so good. Two 750's do Raid 0 and 1 just fine. Takes 4 hours to rebuild a RAID1
set of the 750's. My 4500 only has 512mb of RAM so i am gonna go out on a limb here and say if i bump it to 2GB it would rebuild faster.

My other 2 750's should be here soon.

Hallis 10-18-2006 12:38 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
NICE, thats my first look at Guardian OS.

Shane

blue68f100 10-18-2006 03:31 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
The guardian units use the EEC ram.

On the Guardian Units, all models were bumped up on CPU and RAM as the drive capacity increased. But most showed the 512 was a good number. But with all the cache on the drives. I'm looking at turing it off. To minimize superblock damage. This way the cache will be flushed, cleanly.

longshot 10-18-2006 04:59 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
Turn the cache off on the drives? How are you going about doing it.

blue68f100 10-18-2006 09:58 PM

Re: Help to recover a 4500 with blank disks
 
There are utilities for doing this, but not sure it will work with this setup though. But will check on it. It's part of smart data option/controls.


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