Rev. 2 tbred optimized design getting ready, I'll be running this block tonight to see how well it cools
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/Mk4%20tbred%20B.jpg

u must have some fine equipment at your disposition morphling. those tiny grooves seem impossible to make in copper without a cnc center that can be equiped with a rotatable circular saw.

can we expect an update review at xtremesystems?

Same equipment as before, non cnc desktop mill ;)


Here it is, this will be my final design, I also got another 10 MHz stable out of my cpu. Update as soon as it gets a little colder :D
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/mk4%20rev2%20001.JPG
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/mk4%20rev2%20002.JPG
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/mk4%20rev2%20003.JPG

Goddamn morph you do amazing work for manual stuff.

You wouldn't be a fitter and turner by trade would you?

Nope just mechanical engineer, but I have lots of practice from high school on :)

You need to post this sort of stuff on OCAU morph. Not all of us aussies want to come all the way over to these forums to look at your pretty blocks.

Ok, I will, but looks like I can't get there, I'll try later

Ok, a friend and I are making a similar waterblock to yours and cathars. Its going to have 1,5mm base, 5mm high fins, 0,7mm wide fins, 0,4mm between the fins i think. Dual exitbarbs like the catharwaterblock and plexitop like yours with the nozzle (i dont remember the measurements of the nozzle but its going to be fairly close to cathars specifications). Do you think it will perform well?

Oh and I must say u rock with your tools :D

Should be very good, but also hard on the pump.

Can anyone guess what this is ?
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/ultimate.JPG

Looks like silver to me.

unreal....:drool:

speechless dude

If N8 is right, I'm VERY curious and restless to see how the Silverado will perform (not to mention look:D )

GO GO GO!!!

This was sent to me by one Jeweler/computer junkie who asked me if I can make him a block from silver. He also propose to pay me with same piece for me. Now who am I to argue with him :D
So this will become his block, and very shortly after I'll have my own version

Well, I'm a smoker/computer junkie, but I'm not sending you an ashtray (no point, I know:( )...:D

Now where are those two pieces of Uranium I had...Must have sold 'em already, wife had some troubles sleeping with me glowing in the dark...

Sorry for the jokes, but I just cannot believe...you make some really nice works of art (and performance)...and good news travel fast...this is something extra!...so don't keep us waiting too long, and get a bigger memory card for that digicam:p

Let us see that Silkyway block (both of them, ofcourse)!!!!

Sorry, I got carried away and forgot to ask what I wanted,

so, can you pls. give us the dimensions of the block, and if possible, weight (even crude kitchen scale weight)?

Thx!

Hehe no problem Puzzdre, sometimes you just cracks me up :D
Dimension of the block is 63*82*8mm so 433 g I'll be vacuming every little cut offs :D

OMG! ! !

If that silver block improves performance just 60mhz or so Morphling1 will break 2.8 ! !:eek: :eek: :eek:

Amazing ! :cool:

Da, Ya znam, SREBRO!! Where did you dig that up, brat

Danilo :p

:confused: Not sure I understand the cipher you're using, but I think that he already answered your question (?) a few posts ago...

Now, be honest morphling1... did that silver entice you because you think it's going to help your CPU, or because you thought that you could make your craftsmanship look even better than it already does? ;)

Totaly honest, I'm only after performanse, my big ugly tower is under my table on the left near the wall, so my water cooling is totaly hidden, and never to be seen :) I always wonder how much difference exist between Cu an Ag, but I could only dream of trying that. I mean I know the the difference won't be huge but definetly should be there. So I'm basicaly just I lucky guy whos work got noticed. That man actualy contacted me few months ago wanting my previous block made out of silver, imagine that 12*80*60 silver stock, but I told him it's worth to wait because I'm working on something much better, with a lot less material to use :)

I think I might need to get you to make me one of those for the system I'm planning on entering into the next Fragapalooza case-mod contest. Send me an ICQ some time if your interested and we can chat about materials/pricing/shipping/etc. ICQ# is 1577971

And in a few months perhaps get you to make one or two more when I upgrade my main workstation - I'm not sure yet whether it will end up as a single Athlon64 or a Dual Opteron though, depends what boards and chips end up costing me.

"Luck"? Seems to find those most often who work both hard & smart.

"Success comes to those who hustle wisely." Don't remember who said that but I think that applies more to you than lucky does.

You deserve man. Congrats

Be interesting to see how much differance it does make. What grade of copper is your block made of you're using now?

Cova what about msm I don't have icq installed.

Thanks for those word, Blackeagle. It's electrolitic copper, I don't know exactly how pure it is, I'll ask next time I'm there buying material.
I'm also very interested in what difference will occur, not much I believe but there should be some.

That silver block combined with a 13x multi. should offer you a fair boost to your already amazing O/C.

come on fellows, run some calcs
postulate the thermal 'resistance' due to x thickness of Cu;
then calculate the difference due to the decreased resistance of Ag

account for all of the real deltaT between the CPU and the coolant;
of interest is ONLY that amount between the face of the bp at the TIM joint and the bp surface in contact with the coolant

morphling1 may well measure 'something'; but there are so many other variables a great deal larger than the change, that no conclusion could be possible

BTW, I have 6 Ag wbs; no silver bullets

but silver is a good looker for sure

Bill is right. Heat conductivity plays smaller part in overall heat transfer on this block forced convection is more imporatant, and in that small part the difference is less then 10% so overall much lover than 10% improvement
But at least it won't tarnish :)

I assume ya typo'd and meant msn - I don't have that, just ICQ :)

Oh well, we'll do it the hard way, just e-mail me. rob at baumstark dot ca.

As for the whole silver thing, I'd love to have a silver one but I think it would cost more than I want to pay. It's almost worth it just for the no-tarnish though. Also makes me wonder why we haven't seen gold-plated HS/WB bottoms yet. They do it to the ends of virtually every audio/video cable it can't be too hard/expensive for a thin layer. And with the properties of gold it should both prevent tarnishing, and perhaps be soft enough that with a high-pressure hold-down you wouldn't need any thermal-grease. I think gold also conducts heat better than silver too (I'm quite possibly wrong on that though) which wouldn't normally make any difference at all at that thickness, but if it was soft enough to BE the TIM then it would make a damn good TIM.

Edit:
I'll try and hang around in pro-chat when I can today too, though I'm stuck with the java client for now and my work firewall likes to disconnect me randomly.

With a molecular layer of gold on the waterblock, you'd never notice any difference in cooling. Sure it wouldn't corrode, but that's basically it.

I vapor plate (vacuum deposition) metals all the time. Aluminum, copper, silver, gold, nickel, chromium, etc. The thickness is typically less than 1 micron. Copper and gold do not stick very well (as in they are easily rubbed off of most vapor plated surfaces.) I have been tempted to coat a heatsink base with copper, gold, or silver and use this thin coating as the TIM, since it is a soft, flexible coating. The only problem is that I have been worried about it flaking off over time and then shorting out something. There are ways to prevent this, but it is a lack of time issue. The other thing is that you HAVE to have both surfaces absolutely flat (since the TIM would be 1 micron thick or less), AND mate together flat during the clamping process (no tilting or twisting.)

One of these days......maybe when we get a sputter deposition machine. I would be able to get better, and thicker layers.

BTW, silver does tarnish over time.

milled the silver block yet? Pix & update?