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Opteron 02-15-2003 01:15 AM

hey guys, /me is new on pro cooling but some of you might already know me from somewhere else..

i cant wait to find out how much its gonna cost to get it milled coz if theyre cheap then i am sure so buy one from him. :D

Spamz0r 02-15-2003 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by Opteron
hey guys, /me is new on pro cooling but some of you might already know me from somewhere else..

i cant wait to find out how much its gonna cost to get it milled coz if theyre cheap then i am sure so buy one from him. :D

and you will be the only one who will recive a copy of my block, dony you feel specail :)
i should get:

"Cathar clone v1.0 #1" printed on my block and
"Cathar clone v1.0 #2" printed on ops

what.... its completely original i swear.... :evilaugh: :shrug: :dome:

jaydee 02-15-2003 10:38 AM

Will belive it when I see it! :D Also don't forget the nozzel. One of the most important parts of spreading the incomming water into all those channels. ;)

Spamz0r 02-15-2003 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116
Will belive it when I see it! :D Also don't forget the nozzel. One of the most important parts of spreading the incomming water into all those channels. ;)
nozzel....

um..

uh oh

Cathar 02-15-2003 05:53 PM

The Barton core runs along the length of the fins, so it's fine.

Those fins are about 40mm long from the picture. You have 8 channels you need to cut at a depth of 5mm each. For starters 1mm mill bits with a 5mm shank are extremely rare. In C110 copper, you're looking at around 50 minutes of machine time to cut that. Then they'll need to pay for the number of mill bits that they'll snap while trying to get it right.

It could be done with a slitter saw. I'm unsure of the total machine time here though. Of course you have to pay for the blades and the setup costs to get it right.

$20 for a tool shop to machine something for you sounds to me like they're just doing a favor for someone, whether or not you think they aren't isn't the issue. It's simply not cost effective.

Spamz0r 02-15-2003 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Cathar
The Barton core runs along the length of the fins, so it's fine.

Those fins are about 40mm long from the picture. You have 8 channels you need to cut at a depth of 5mm each. For starters 1mm mill bits with a 5mm shank are extremely rare. In C110 copper, you're looking at around 50 minutes of machine time to cut that. Then they'll need to pay for the number of mill bits that they'll snap while trying to get it right.

It could be done with a slitter saw. I'm unsure of the total machine time here though. Of course you have to pay for the blades and the setup costs to get it right.

$20 for a tool shop to machine something for you sounds to me like they're just doing a favor for someone, whether or not you think they aren't isn't the issue. It's simply not cost effective.

i never got a quote for my clone,

but i still dont know how a slit saw operates, if my quote is to much i will want to use a slit saw

how much are slit saws ?
where can you get them ?
how do they work ?
pics ?

ill probibly just have everthing milled out except for the 1mm wide channels and do them with a slit saw.... if the quote is to high

cheers

Spamz0r 02-15-2003 06:47 PM

actually if i change the bottom 5mm distance to 6mm i could do most of the work at school with no charge

then get a slitting saw and do the rest :D

pippin88 02-15-2003 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Spamz0r
i never got a quote for my clone,

but i still dont know how a slit saw operates, if my quote is to much i will want to use a slit saw

how much are slit saws ?
where can you get them ?
how do they work ?
pics ?

ill probibly just have everthing milled out except for the 1mm wide channels and do them with a slit saw.... if the quote is to high

cheers

Mine ranged in price from $13 to $20.
Got them from a machine tools place in Sydney
They are like a mini circular saw.
Pics will be forth coming in a while in my thread.

Spamz0r 02-15-2003 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pippin88
Mine ranged in price from $13 to $20.
Got them from a machine tools place in Sydney
They are like a mini circular saw.
Pics will be forth coming in a while in my thread.


really only $13-$20 ?

will i need only to pay $13-$20 to cut it ? or are they like just blades or something

pippin88 02-15-2003 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Spamz0r
really only $13-$20 ?

will i need only to pay $13-$20 to cut it ? or are they like just blades or something

Just blades, then you need an arbor.

Spamz0r 02-15-2003 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by pippin88
Just blades, then you need an arbor.
lol, you know that isnt good enough ;)

whats an arbor ! :)

Volenti 02-15-2003 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spamz0r
lol, you know that isnt good enough ;)

whats an arbor ! :)

it's the bit that holds the blades;)

Spamz0r 02-15-2003 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Volenti
it's the bit that holds the blades;)
LOL


anyway...

i just popped down to my closest hardware store looking for brass barbs, and was told you would have a very hard time finding them retail

so i need some help trying to find brass barbs in Aus !


cheers

pippin88 02-15-2003 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spamz0r
LOL


anyway...

i just popped down to my closest hardware store looking for brass barbs, and was told you would have a very hard time finding them retail

so i need some help trying to find brass barbs in Aus !


cheers

Most truck places, most hosing etc. specialists like Pirtek, ENZED, as well as plumbing places.

Volenti 02-15-2003 10:49 PM

go to a plumbing supply store, or a place that sells light irrigation equipment, they will have brass hose barbs.

hell, if a 2 horse town like maryborough has 3 places that I can get brass hosebarbs from (retail), surely brisbane has one!

Spamz0r 02-15-2003 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Volenti
go to a plumbing supply store, or a place that sells light irrigation equipment, they will have brass hose barbs.

hell, if a 2 horse town like maryborough has 3 places that I can get brass hosebarbs from (retail), surely brisbane has one!

hmm ok

i wanted to get the measurements of the inside of the barbs but it doesnt matter that much atm

ill have one 1/2" barb in and 2 going out, what size should be going out ? 3/8" ?

can i get a Y adapter ? 2 3/8 into one 1/2" as that would be preferable for obious reasons

well ive decided that i will do most of the milling except for the 1mm channels at school

i will either do the chanels with a slit saw thingy or take them to get done at Compucut

JFettig 02-21-2003 11:05 PM

I buy my end mills at jtsmachine.com

about 3 bucks for a 1/8inch end mill, about 3.50 for a 1/16inch end mill and about the same for 3/64.
and about 5-6 bucks for a 1/4inch end mill, ALL CARBIDE.

this is USD, do the math;)

jaydee 02-22-2003 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFettig
I buy my end mills at jtsmachine.com

about 3 bucks for a 1/8inch end mill, about 3.50 for a 1/16inch end mill and about the same for 3/64.
and about 5-6 bucks for a 1/4inch end mill, ALL CARBIDE.

this is USD, do the math;)

Hummmm..... Will look into that. That is dirt cheap for 1/16". Especially carbide. Need to get a new collet set to, lost mine in my last move. :(

Spamz0r 02-22-2003 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFettig
I buy my end mills at jtsmachine.com

about 3 bucks for a 1/8inch end mill, about 3.50 for a 1/16inch end mill and about the same for 3/64.
and about 5-6 bucks for a 1/4inch end mill, ALL CARBIDE.

this is USD, do the math;)

can you please post a direct link to thoose bits as i have no real idea of what im looking for :)

bigben2k 02-22-2003 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFettig
I buy my end mills at jtsmachine.com

about 3 bucks for a 1/8inch end mill, about 3.50 for a 1/16inch end mill and about the same for 3/64.
and about 5-6 bucks for a 1/4inch end mill, ALL CARBIDE.

this is USD, do the math;)

Nice one Jon!

Got anyone who sells 1.0 mm endmills, that can go 4 or 5 mm deep? Prefer Cobalt, and coated:D

Spamz0r 02-23-2003 07:01 AM

how long are the 1.5mm ones ?

and where are they on that site... i couldnt find them :)


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