$50 sent :D

oh shi

what has been started here?
Maybe I should just go buy a socket 754 mobo and CPU for testing lol

From the PolarFLO website:

I don't see why I couldn't just drill the appropriate holes and cut the holddown to size and mount the wb same as any other 4 hole socket a block.

Do you?

ok ?
but you have to use HIS hold-down = a busted mobo
LOL

how you intending to address ?

shit I am wrong anyway. No way it'll clear the cam box on socket A

It's a large mofo.

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?im...8xM19sLmpwZw==

Could also use my "big hunk" die sim I suppose... Or get off ass and finish a proper one

ck that the OD leaves room for the mobo holes is all
- but if so, why did PF not do so ?
-> and what does any modding do to the percieved accuracy ?

I like the A64 idea, but the mounting precludes it

EDIT: ah, yea me too - forgot the cam box

I've been itching to upgrade to AMD64 ever since I saw where the pins are located for the diode :)

Well Socket 754 is pretty affordable now, but it would lead to a bunch of questions.. like A64 Desktop (with IHS) or A64 Mobile (no IHS) and what about having to retest everything you've done in the past...

I think a real die sim setup is the way to go (worst short term, best long term)

lol
mine was labeled "beer $"

agreed, work on the die sim

Yea the die simulator is a requirement. No question.

But I am concerned about ONLY testing on the die simulator as I have been able to pick out a lot of mounting issues and problems that end users would experience by actually installing and testing on a real system too.

Seems to me that this is an important consideration for reviews, and that I should really continue to do such testing. Since SocketA is EOL, I will sooner or later have to upgrade. Socket 754 w/ IHS makes the most sense to me.

for mounting issues, yes
a deficiency of my testing was that it was limited to the wbs performance and did not address ease of use, robustness, tubing issues, etc.

Well Socket A will live at least a few more months under the Sempron, and it doesnt seem that motherboard manufacturers have given up on it - they're still coming out with new boards. Some blocks aren't Socket A compatable, but most still are or have Socket A versions... when 462 is really EOLed then you can start making 754 noises - they should be even cheaper then :)

Does procooling have an official beggar position - someone(s) who constantly is prestering OEMs for gear for testing and/or test bed freebies? I'm sure a few of them would love to hear their gear on the test bed just so that people can see it exists. Yeah, I know we have talked about it before, but lets talk about it again.

that would be me. I am not too active on this because the more I beg the more I have to test :)

But quietly I bugged Koolance and PolarFLO over the weekend...

Nah, you need to decouple the marketing department and the testing department. Less bias that way =) And more of your time can be spent testing. Any one here can do 80-90% of the ground work to get the testing gear - maybe you can just close the deal. That might end up saving you a significant amount of time/effort.

Let us help.

N.B. some mfgrs are PR whores - its all good
others may be very picky, particularly where ranked lists are involved

over the longer term pH has a problem:
how to induce a mfgr to test when that mfgr's product may not compare favorably ?

I suspect the 'front runners' will participate, and no others (why should they, can't 'win' ?)
- be prepared to buy stuff

but you are assuming perfect knowledge here. Some mfgrs aren't totally aware of our reviews and will send a few blocks before they realize they've been torn up. Others will think their new stuff is significantly better than the last thing we rip apart. There are tons of premutions on that theme.

But, yes, to get a "full coverage" approach, we will either need to start buying things OR we need to get in touch with a reseller (newegg, directron, etc) who have deep enough pockets to pony up our missing blocks. If the article is good enough (eg. a deep and technical 15 item round up) we could probably get many of those from a reseller - as long as we mention their name a few times. That has the added benefit of not inducing bias on the result field.

That works for the big names Tempus but smaller mfgrs (as in this thread) don't deal with resellers.

Polarflo have quite a few resellers..
http://www.polarflo.com/index.asp?Pa...on=Custom&ID=2

As stated before, any manufacturer who has done testing will know how they stack up vs. the competition, and avoid sending their blocks here unless they expect good results.

Maybe once you've got the die sim set up and can take all the numbers so that retesting wouldnt be required, you could auction off the blocks after use to make the money back?

Ah so they do. SVC looks like a likely sponsor; Joe's been working on them for MWL sponsorship I think.

might even be able to get the koolance block from them

Would buying a Polar Flo TT from Frozen CPU be bad?

not at all, Mark is a nice guy - the other fellows too
but I'm not sure Mark will give pH one

Bill, is that a typo in your location (switching the , for a .) ?