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Looks the same as some pics i saw on a site, that where pulled off shortly at apple request. :( Edit: oops, I skipped page 2 of the thread, it was already answered. :rolleyes: |
So size and potential longevity aside, are there significant performance differences between the new D4/mcp650 and this new DDC?
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D4/MCP650 (muffled version): Maximum flow @ 12 volts = 5.28 GPM about 0.9GPM @ 8 feet max head = 10 feet H2O Laing Delphi DDC: Maximum flow @ 13.5 volts = 1.75 GPM about 1.15GPM @ 8 feet max head = 14.5 feet H2O I suppose the maximum flow rates are given for 0' head. I would like to see both pumps in the same graph... CD :) |
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edit: found it. I incorrectly recalled it being for pumps AND blocks http://www.procooling.com/html/pro_testing.php Now that would be nice (hint hint). |
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Edit: Newer better graph below.
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Now what is the curve going to look like at 12V? I know my PSU only puts out 12 :D
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This seems to be the pump for switching back to 3/8" tubing and plumbing GPU, NB, CPU, etc all in series...
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swapping the DDC for the MCP650 in a small system with a MCR120 and MCW6000 saw the flow rate drop 0.05gpm with ~+0.15° at the die
it was quite a trick to get the pump running, not at all what we figured here have to say that this pump is extraordinary for its size and output but not cheap, nor dead quiet |
Will the DDC come in 1/2" flavor? Have you done DDC vs. mcp650 testing with the mcw50 in the loop?
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yea, called the MCP650
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movement is glacially slow, but continues
the MCP350 (aka Laing DDC) P-Q curve @ 12VDC (courtesy of Laing) http://www.thermal-management-testin...curve%20SI.gif no more info until the pump's release, sorry other vendors to be considered |
Damn, that's some impressive flow rates! Maybe change the name to MCP21000? :p
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Groth, did you read "GPH" instead of "LPH"?
Edited: Asleep when I posted... |
ccs/sec ?
10 goddamn characters, otta fill the gd page aw crap ! now I see it |
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Alright so here's a new graph with the 12V info that Bill provided. It also has an interpetation of Bill's test system, it has a 3 gph drop from MCP650 to MCP350.
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/att...tid=3668&stc=1 |
Look on HardOCP front page, I think it clears ANY doubts about what kind of pump Apple is using.
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wow..... a pump that small with flow rates like that. Delphi must've invested quite some time and money into this little pump, especially since it's going as a stock cooling system into an Apple.
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I looked all over this thread and the website for the pump, then finally decided to mess with the urls and found it
http://www.lainginc.com/DDC_Series.htm Looks really impressive, I bet the price wont be;) Jon |
Public price is 85-87€
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D4 for $75 or DDC for $105, I think I'll take the D4. It must be so expensive because it's associated with Apple. :D |
Public price isn't reseller price and with large quantity this pump will be cheaper...
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I am aware of no Laing website presently listing the pump or its price got a link ? or just a wink ? |
It's an Email from my contacts from Laing (Germany)
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