PDF27, yes exacltly now were cooking.

And BillA :shrug: Man I never called you stupid. And just because I'm learning more of the hardcore end of watercooling is no reason to call me stupid. nor am I trying to argue with anyone.

I'm just trying to find out of some answers to some of my questions.

Ok after checking out that link pdf27, I'm now starting to look at just cooling the cpu, But using my pump and my res. All have half inch fittings so I'm looking at going with the Swiftech MCW6002-P because of it's restriction and what the 6000-p showed on the chart at the higher flow rate and the delt T. I will use 2 radiators instead of 1. And I will highly consider the TT radiators A) cost is a factor 39.99 "includes a 120mm fan" B) as said before they are restrictive. I'll have a very high flow rate with just one rad and waterblock and the res connected to this pump so I'm hoping to slow the flow down to get it close to but yet not slowing it down to much to make this all work.

I was going to go with the Danger Den NV-68 for my 6800GT but after reading some reivews and actually talking to people that own them and seeing the temps that they get. It seems as though the block actually will hurt a well tuned setup because it can dump so much more heat into the system. If you own a Geforce 6 series card you know that they run hot. But on another note. I'm also throwing the idea of a mcw50 and the swiftech 6800 conveter and using that on the cpu and adding another radiator "1 for video/2 for cpu" and then seeing how this will work out.

What do you guys think of this? I feel that the my pump and res coupled with 2 TT rads and the MCW6002-P all using 1/2 hose seems like it should get me off to a good start.

ok, where in that post is the word stupid ?
is your inability to read/quote congenital ? or the result of an educationally deprived upbringing ?

read it twice if it is difficult, or get help if it is beyond you

but that was a stupid post

Nice billa, Ignorant to be specific. I see that with a few word posts your post count has increased drastically.

And if seems as though your the one trying to start an argument!

the first part of talking technical is to use words correctly so all readers have a sporting chance to understand what you are saying
reading your post someone may have concluded that I called you stupid, I corrected you
eos

I don't see how lowering the flow is beneficial. The block listed improves with higher flow rates (like any block available will), why would you want to lower it's performance?
39.99 is't that cheap, you can pick up a heatercore and barbs for less than that, and it'll give far superior perfomance.

Why on earth would you want to put in an extra restrictive radiator/other components to lower the flowrate?? That doesn't make one bit of sense.

People are steering you away from TT for a reason...They have a long history of shoddy and cheaply made products (especially for watercooling) and just plain don't belong in a loop of any watercooler who wants respect around here. 40$? Get a nice dual heatercore and some low speed fans....Trust me, you will be a lot happier once you sort your thermodynamics issues out.

...and just for clarification...how old are you and what level of school have you attended?

-OMP

Are you in junior high?

The Swiftech blocks are good (major improvement there). The radiators are still dire. The problem is that (if pump heat doesn't change) you will ALWAYS get better performance if you increase the flow rate in your system.
As a (very rough) guide, for higher performance with radiators you want:
1) Highest water flow possible (i.e. lowest flow resistance)
2) Highest air flow possible (i.e. lowest air resistance, highest frontal area)
3) Highest "wetted area" of radiator (i.e. surface area of radiator with air flowing over it).

(2) and (3) are often contradictory - by increasing the wetted area without increasing the frontal area you will increase the air resistance. Which is better to do will depend on the detailed radiator design and type of fan fitted.

The Thermaltake radiators are bad because (1) they are very restrictive to water flow (even with your pump, the thin coiled tubing will choke the flow badly, cutting down system performance as a whole), (2) they are very thick and cut down air flow, (3) because they don't have much of a frontal area compared to a heatercore and (4) because knowing Thermaltake they're likely to ship it with cheapo fans that won't shift a lot of air and will be so noisy you'll want to replace them in short order.

People are steering you towards heatercores because they're cheap, they have low resistance to water flow, they have a high frontal area and comparatively low resistance to air flow. Use one and some decent fans, and you will get far higher performance than your current plan for less money and most likely less noise. If you then want to experiment with cutting flow rates, just stick a clamp around one bit of the hose and gradually tighten it - it will allow you a far wider variety of flow speeds, and show you why for the same pump power more flow is always beneficial to temperatures.

@BillA - I thought I was wasting my time too, but it looks like I'm finally getting somewhere. More business your way at least ;)

its not the business, its the lack of understanding due to . . . . .
lets see how he answers redleader's question

Nope.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=361727

Hmmm.... Bonneville Heatercore and 6002 block. I'd say that's a fairly massive improvement on some of the plans at the start of the thread. It does feel rather like pulling teeth though!
As for redleader's question, if we catch them while they're young before they slip into bad habits...

ok ok, run with it and we'll see the results