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BillA 11-17-2004 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pHaestus
What about the fact that the tubing has a curve in it when the wb is connected, but is straight through w/o the block?

nooo, the cross must/should (?) be close coupled to the wb/rad and that connection tube kept straight
- a bend will have an effect

Uncle`BuZZ 11-18-2004 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pHaestus
In MY opinion, the solution is to produce C/W vs flow data and dP vs flow data for waterblocks and a few common radiator/fan combos. Then to use that data along with the other components in the loop and the pump P-Q curves to predict a final C/W for the system. That is what groth was going for here:

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/water.gro...20process1.htm

The interface would have to be simplified a lot and it's awaiting my dP vs flow data...

It's waiting on my dP vs flow numbers to be generated; that's next up after this Alphacool nexxos XP review is done

I think we tried to do same thing in different way...


you can found my solution (version alpha) here (in french). I stopped development cause I miss data to put into my db...

you can define your loop with some tubing, radiator and waterblock, in series or what you want, you just need to drag elements where you want on the loop and see results...

You need the JVM from SUN and not the JVM from microsoft to use it. You could see some difference from your results because I probably haven't the same data of you (very few data in fact) but they should be minim.

In my dream I hoped to add some C/W data to do a prediction of performences, but I miss drop pressure data, so I don't imagine having enough C/W data... :shrug:

pHaestus 11-18-2004 06:51 PM

I am happy to open source all data. Let me get it in a reasonable format. I suspect dP vs Q numbers will be more useful to others and I'm in the process of fiddling w/ that now

pHaestus 12-07-2004 02:12 PM

Danger Den most graciously sent me a Thermochill 120.2 radiator (thanks guys!)
I will buy some Papst fans (anyone have a source for the ones used in these simulated loops?) and then try to reproduce some of the dT vs pump results using our modeled cooling loop.

BillA 12-07-2004 02:38 PM

good luck
correlating that systems stuff will be a chore, you'll have no 'free' time this xmas

pHaestus 12-07-2004 02:41 PM

I am a dummy. Danger Den had the 4312L's in stock; should have gotten them to drop a few in the box. I ordered them just now and should have them next week.

I'm in research scientist mode still: NO correlation is still worth knowing right? LOL

pHaestus 04-06-2005 12:09 PM

OK I am setting up the thermochill-based test loop tonight when I get home. I'll post an update when I get it running. The New AMD64 system I built for general testing will allow me to keep using my TBredB box for interesting stuff like this I hope.

MaxxxRacer 04-06-2005 09:36 PM

dont kill the winnie man...

plywood99 06-06-2005 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pHaestus
OK I am setting up the thermochill-based test loop tonight when I get home. I'll post an update when I get it running. The New AMD64 system I built for general testing will allow me to keep using my TBredB box for interesting stuff like this I hope.


Hope this hasn't died down. Looking forward to the results...

YEP 06-25-2005 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pHaestus
You guys are too damn clever. Now I suppose all that you need is pressure drop numbers for all the wbs I've tested right?

Not to be rude ..... sure "buddy"

This thread is really really nice. Good work you guys are doing.

When putting a new system together it's reall nice to have an idea how much pressure drops across a waterblock.

Again invaluable work you guys are doing for the community

bobo5195 08-23-2005 01:26 AM

Nice work, the computer model saves me answering many questions.

I havent been able to find this information anywhere else:
What are the assumptions in the model though.
Is the friction from the pipe based on tubulent or lamina flow and is the small diameter and possible boundary layer problems consider (ie has boundary layer thickness been considered as a check).
When comparing different widths of pipes is the head loss coefficent from varying diameter considered. For example thermochills are 3/8ths but piping might be 1/2 (this might be taken into account by bills testing) and the inlet and outlet to blocks or pump.


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