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RoboTech 10-18-2002 07:25 AM

Hey MadDog,

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Originally posted by MadDogMe
Gee!, I hope you cut and pasted that RoboTech!!:D ...

Yes, I keep notes... :)

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Fox Mulder walking on water would be a surfactant would'nt he?... [/b]
LOL Good one... :D

mfpmax 10-18-2002 04:49 PM

This is quite a long thread, and I'm just gonna throw this out in the open and see if anyone catches...

But recently I found out the reason my car was overheating somewhat and it was in part to the fact that a large amount of "scale"(sp) had built up inside the radiator. Me and my dad then went down to the parts store to pick up some stuff to remove it. The container says it not only gets rid of the scale but also helps in cooling(like Water Wetter I guess), and prevents corrosion and future build up of scale.

Its called Pro Blend.

MadDogMe 10-19-2002 03:25 AM

I would'nt use it cause of its 'ascorbic'(is that right?) properties, anything that'll break down scale is unhealthy(check handling requirments) it could 'breath' through, or break down even!, the tube if potent enough.
The cooling probably comes as a result of there being no scale :p . I'd stick to WW for added cooling...

bigben2k 10-19-2002 08:41 AM

The scale comes from the calcium, found in tap water. If one uses distilled water, then scale shouldn't be an issue.

I've never heard of PRO Blend, but Hmale pointed us all to Silkolene Pro CCA. Is this from the same line?

mfpmax 10-19-2002 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by MadDogMe

The cooling probably comes as a result of there being no scale :p . I'd stick to WW for added cooling...

Duh :D

No, I believe they proably have something in it to pull the same as WW, as they also sell something just for cooling and not radiator cleaning.

MadDogMe 10-20-2002 04:36 AM

Yep!, I would'nt use it anyway, there's so much stuff in there you dont need, I like the sound of the Silkolene WW equivilent, Silkolene are good people...

PS. does PurpleIce have the same bad smell that WaterWetter has?...

kenrippy 10-20-2002 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by MadDogMe


PS. does PurpleIce have the same bad smell that WaterWetter has?...

NO! I'm using Purple Ice and it's great. I was waiting for someone to mention this stuff. here's a couple links:

PURPLE ICE

PURPLE ICE

mfpmax 10-20-2002 02:35 PM

Here is the stuff I put into my car recently, the Pro-Blend stuff I mentioned...it has a opaque milky look...like silicone tubing.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/l/m/lmitch81.../problend2.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/l/m/lmitch81.../problend3.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/l/m/lmitch81.../problend4.jpg

kenrippy 10-20-2002 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by mfpmax
Here is the stuff I put into my car recently, the Pro-Blend stuff I mentioned...it has a opaque milky look...like silicone tubing.

one thing that scares me about that stuff is it says "stops some leaks" that tells me it has some sort of coagulant (sp) - something that could cause build up in tight areas like a water block w/ small channels.

mfpmax 10-20-2002 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by kenrippy
one thing that scares me about that stuff is it says "stops some leaks" that tells me it has some sort of coagulant (sp) - something that could cause build up in tight areas like a water block w/ small channels.
Yeah, I thought about that when I posted the picture, cause in the auto industry...leak sealers are bad cause they could also clog...

But if I were to put this into a system, I wouldn't put a large amount of it into the system, same for anti-freeze, only enough to do its job would be put into the system.

kenrippy 10-20-2002 04:47 PM

well, I ordered a couple bottles of Purple Ice from carparts.com and it was pretty cheap, might want to look into it. as a matter fact I can send ya some if ya want for less than Dtek :D

MadDogMe 10-21-2002 03:49 AM

I'd been happier if it'd come in a plastic bottle too ;) , are'nt many plastic parts in a car cooling system!. wonder how it reacts...

Axly 10-21-2002 04:15 AM

I saw that RoboTech used it for some systems, but noone else..
What about Methanol? Sure it's a bit poisonous, but I've handled enough of the stuff for RC engines to know what I'm doing. I don't know the exact proportions, but methanol improves the cooling properties to some extent when mixed with water, and when in higher concentration deteriorates it. It would work quite well for killing germs and it keeps the water from freezing (for sub-0 systems)

Downsides could be that it's bad for some types of plastic and it's poisonous.. Any more bad things about it? Anyone have more info on cooling/detergent properties?

mfpmax 10-21-2002 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by MadDogMe
I'd been happier if it'd come in a plastic bottle too ;) , are'nt many plastic parts in a car cooling system!. wonder how it reacts...
Don't fool yourself now :)

MadDogMe 10-21-2002 08:09 AM

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Don't fool yourself now
Huh?,:shrug: . Was that in relation to 'no plastics'?...

Alloy block/water jacket, Copper rad', Brass thermostat, Rubber hoses...

mfpmax 10-21-2002 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by MadDogMe
Huh?,:shrug: . Was that in relation to 'no plastics'?...

Alloy block/water jacket, Copper rad', Brass thermostat, Rubber hoses...

Yes, they have radiators with plastic end tanks.

MadDogMe 10-21-2002 08:39 AM

Right!, why did'nt you just say that!:rolleyes: , I've never seen one, come to think of it, they put plastic water header/filler bottles in as well don't they?, though they are more like nylon, than the brittle kinda plastic you get in pumps. so many kinds of plastic around nowadays though, [Homers Dads Voice]I.. remember when we only had Bake..e..lite...,[HDV], come to think of it WW buggers up plastic(or coats it?) if you put to much of a concentrate in as well does'nt it?...

mfpmax 10-21-2002 08:54 AM

Yeah, there is a Nissan radiator sitting out front that has plastic tanks on it. But if it can stand up to heat, it should be able to stand up to WW...


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