What are the temps Jay? Using the Maze 4?

Just about to post an update! :)

XP1700+ TBred A
2.0V
2000mhz

Load Temps:
Room Temp: 26C
Water Temp: 33C
TC: 51C
Onboard: 47.5C

Maze 4 is comming of and will be dropping on my Rev. 5.0 now.

god i envy your room temps... :(
Mine are 36C right now......blearg!

No kidding, my room temp is 34C right now. Which is one of the main reasons I wanted to switch to watercooling in the first place.

A/C here. Otherwise it would be much warmer.

and I was complaining when room temps get to 30c!!!

26 is warm for us in the pacific n'west...

Jaydee, can't wait to see your results on your rev 5.0.

Not looking to good so far.....

its 35C now, and thats WITH AC.
I live in Texas, USA - its hotter than a mofo right now - especially on the second floor of a house with one AC unit and the thermostat downstairs....

I know all about Texas. I built 2 Costco Gas station canopies there. One in Austin and one in San Antonio. Was toasty for sure, especially in your full welding gear burning stick for 10hrs a day. :D

Remounting the Rev.5. So far it is 2C warmer than the Maze 4... :(

is that with the cpu@2000mhz/2.0vcore? guess its, back to the drawing board for rev 6...:dome:

Dido...:confused:

Yes it is still at 2V 2gig. I took it off and saw no visable signes of a bad mount. perfect Imprint of compound. So I took it off and now running my Rev. 4.0. it has been on for a few minutes and already at Maze 4 temps and climbing... Tomorrow I will hook up the Jet block #2 and see what happens.....

Well I officially suck!

Rev. 5 sucks
Rev. 4 sucks
Jet Block 2 sucks

Putting the Lemon Block on now. I always liked this block! Never should have stopped working on it. If it looks decent I will make a Copper version of it soon....

Must be nice to have all that gear lying around. I have a Maze3 Pentium block for an AMD system. GOGO DangerDen!

septic, sorry to hear about the DD order mixup. In my experience with dan and the dangerden crew have been excellent on numerous purchases and the after-service has been excellent. They have replaced/refunded cracked reservoirs and noisy pumps, no questions asked, return shipping refunded. Still not acceptable for that mixup, but I can only guess they are bit swamped with the release of a new product...

Yea, I guess. Just seemed odd with all the trouble surrounding this.

Paid for 2nd day air, and they shipped ground.
Ordered Maze 4 AMD, and received a Maze 3 Pentium.
Told them of their mistake about the Maze 3 and asked to shipped the Maze 4 AMD, and they shipped Pentium.

I am beginning to wonder if they even make blocks for AMD at this point. Maybe they will send me a Maze 2 Pentium this time?

Who knows.

Hey hold on to that maze2, that's a collector's item...:dome:

My Lemon block is up and running. So far it is kicking everythings ass and it is aluminum to boot. Knew I should have continued with that block... Will have temps against the Maze 4 tomorrow. So far it is 4C cooler but the water temps is a C cooler to. Will let things settle in over night running D.F..

now that is interesting... I would be surprised an alu block would perform so well. what else is in your loops? 500gph pump, 1/2"ID tubing and what is the rad? I presume you are monitoring your ambient temps closely during these tests?

Thats pretty surprising that your aluminum block performs so well. Just goes to show the waterblock theories don't beat real live testing.....

not to say anything against you, but finally running a CPU at 2ghz seems silly to me :) I've got two CPUs here (originally t-bred b 2100+) at stock voltage, 2100 mhz, and my cooling probably cost less than your waterblock ($18- Thermalright AX-7, $2- NMB 18 CFM fan). Of course no doubt your temps completely own mine :) 43 C in a well air conditioned basement....

http://yo-duh.whitesidefamily.net/block.jpg

Not a bad looking block, but mine is missing a screw. Sent off an email to bruce, though, and he said he'll send me a screw for it. Had a reply in under 3 min :eek: That's what I call service :)

It is a little inconvenient, though. Not that I have any WC gear to test it with anyway, I need to get that ordered sometime soon :rolleyes:

One thing I definately don't like about the block is the mounting method provided, seems prety weak to me, but I'll have to attempt mounting it before passing the final judgement. We'll see.

The Lemon Block was my best work. It is designed to handle a lot of heat as I originally made it for my TBird 1400. These were some toasty CPU's. The base the pins sit in is 3/16" thick to allow a lot of heat to spread out to the pins and then get absorbed by the water. Flow rate is excellent through this block. It is a very high flow block which with the design just makes it work. Also I got a Tbred A core 1700+ that doesn't OC near aswell asthe B cores (although over a 500mhz overclock isn't to shabby!) . It is the only CPU I ever had capable of 2gig and I just got the Abit KD7 a few weeks ago which is the first board I ever had that could take a CPU to 2gig. Thats why it was my first shot at 2gig. Everyone has a first time. ;)


Air temps are taken with another thermocoupler. I have two of them. Water temps are taken with a thermister. All have been calibrated with each other. Note these are "relative" temps.

jaydee, did you ever think of doing a copper version of the lemon?

Yes, it is in the works.

DD screws up orders sometimes. But they fix them well. I have a free GPU block as a testiment :)

Ok here are my results testing the Maze 4 vs the Maze 3.

System Info:

Asus A7N8X Deluxe 2.0 using latest 1005 bios update
2 x 512 Kingston DDR 3200 RAM
Gainward GeForceFX 5900 Ultra 256 mb card
Sound Blaster Audigy 2
Hydor L30 pump
Black Ice Extreme Radiator
1/2" Tygon tubing
Distilled Water/HyperLube mix about 40 to 1 ratio.
Room temp varied a little here between 23C and 25C.

Anything else I need to put in here? This is my 1st time doing this so still new to the ropes.

Rebuilt the system 3 times for clarity for each block and here are the results so far. Temperature is recorded using a thermacoupler, but not quite sure if it is correct or not. Will also post the Asus Probe temps as well so you can see the differences.

Maze 3

1- Idle = 27C, Load using CPU Burn for 1 hour = 35C
2- Idle = 27C, Load using CPU Burn for 1 hour = 34C
3- Idle = 26C, Load using CPU Burn for 1 hour = 34C

Asus temp readings on the above were between 33 and 37...no idea why though....don't even know if it is relevant either.

Maze 4 (Load same as above, tired of typing it)

1- Idle = 29C, Load = 39C
2- Idle = 27C, Load = 38C
3- Idle = 27C, Load = 39C

Asus temps were between 40-44 on loads.

There are still bubbles in the system on all 6 tests because I need to make a resovoir with some sort of bleed tube I think. Still thinking on this one....I am hoping that this will improve the flow and lower temps a little.

Did I do things right?

There's not much you can do other than call and complain. If you really are dissatisfied then ask for a refund and buy something else from somewhere else.

This is a reasonable time to plug Cooltechnica. Bruce is a real retailer and not a mfgr that looks at the shipping and sales as an extra hassle. I would suggest buying swiftech, dangerden, dtek, and such from Bruce instead in the future. He has great service and is always available to deal with issues should they arise.

Try remounting a few times, but looks ok for what you have. I just hooked up Jet Block Version 1 about an hour ago. So far it is 2C better than the Maze 4.

XP1700+@1800mhz
1.75Vcore

Air: 26C
Water: 30C
TC: 41C
Onboard: 39C


Also the Lemon Block ended up being 1C better.

I am now seriously confused here.

All I did was add one 120mm rad fan, two 80mm window fans, an L30 pump (on it's own power)...and then the waterblocks.

The temps are under what they were with aircooling BUT now my system benchmark performance is worse?

3dmark2003, and 2001 are both considerably worse now. No driver changes, nothing but added the above.

Any ideas why?

That would probably be a Winblows issue. Happens to me regularly. Reinstall the vid drivers and try again.