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superart 11-11-2004 05:59 PM

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If screen real estate is your primary concern, then taking a bit of time with IE will give you the largest view pane.


Refer to my pic. Compare my IE setup to my Opera setup.

bigben2k 11-11-2004 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satanicoo
i will only get back to IE when it gets tabbed.

Then add "Crazy Browser" to it. ;)

webworm99 11-12-2004 07:11 AM

On the Mozalla Screen problem.
You can get themes to show more of the screen . I use pinball on mine.

On Internet explorer,
You can only use pop-up blocking on windows xp sp2.
They do not have tab browsing. You can get hoods for I.E. that have that feature.

I can finally say this after the release of Firefox 1.0
I use firefox the most. (I was real surprised that I do)
I had 10 or more tabs open at once

One little bug. On some sites. (Not this site) The font is real tiny.

superart 11-12-2004 03:34 PM

Also, a big problem I have experienced with FF is if you click on a link that automaticly opens in a new window, one of two possible things happens.

If you have the popup blocker turned on, the new window will be blocked.

If popup blocker is off, instead of opening in a new tab, the link opens in an entirely new browser window.


**These bugs may have been solved since the last time I used FF. If so, please disregard this message.

bigben2k 11-12-2004 03:41 PM

The Crazy Browser extension to IE has one advantage over Firefox: you can re-order the tabs.

I don't know of a way to do it in Firefox, but I never seem to need it, until I start using IE... go figure!

nikhsub1 11-12-2004 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigben2k
The Crazy Browser extension to IE has one advantage over Firefox: you can re-order the tabs.

I don't know of a way to do it in Firefox, but I never seem to need it, until I start using IE... go figure!

ehhhm, those of you (yes you Ben:D ) that do not use the Tabbed browsing Extension for Firefox are missing the boat. IMO this is one of the best extensions for Firefox. http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/_tabextensions.html.en And yes, you can reorder the tabs.

Kobuchi 11-12-2004 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhsub1
Tabbed browsing... one of the best extensions for Firefox.

I still don't understand how "tabs" differ from IE instances crammed into the taskbar, in how they're used. This is not an argument, this is an appeal for some explanation. :shrug:

nikhsub1 11-12-2004 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobuchi
I still don't understand how "tabs" differ from IE instances crammed into the taskbar, in how they're used. This is not an argument, this is an appeal for some explanation. :shrug:

OK, If I have 10 sites open in IE, I will have 10 IE instances in the taskbar. That sucks. I usually will also have Photoshop, OUtlook, quark, mirc, and other things open too. It makes the taskbar easier to deal with. With FF, all the sites stay in one window, to me it is a much better solution. Plus, IE is riddled with holes like swiss cheese, not only that, it is the browser most target for vulnerabilities.

psychofunk 12-15-2004 09:14 PM

I am hooked on firefox and thanks for the tab extentions nik.

aaronspink 12-16-2004 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pHaestus
Adblock is good stuff. There's a similar extension for flash.

Also don't forget ctrl+shift+f to disable/enable flash.

aaronspink 12-16-2004 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhsub1
ehhhm, those of you (yes you Ben:D ) that do not use the Tabbed browsing Extension for Firefox are missing the boat. IMO this is one of the best extensions for Firefox. http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/_tabextensions.html.en And yes, you can reorder the tabs.

Othe extentions that are phenom:

Super DragandGo: a quick click and drag an any link will other it in another tab (which placement options if you want), hilight any non link url and then drag them to open them in a tab, hilight any text and drag to web search it.

BBCode is nice for boards such as this one, adds all the BBcodes as a right click.

Tab Clicking Options: allows more control of how tabs are handled.

FoxyTunes: fully integrates most music players into the browser. pretty nice extension.

pHaestus 12-16-2004 11:46 AM

There are some more EXCELLENT extensions I have found:

Bugmenot: right click in username/passwords for sites and it'll put in a working registration. This is great for newspapers and other sites that require free registration to read articles.

PrefButtons: This gives you the ability to add tons of features to the toolbar as a button. The killer feature is a "Send referer" checkbox. You can uncheck it and your browser won't send referring page information and pages that normally require "drag n drop" to work will just load right up. So, for example, you can click on images hosted on geocities without getting an error. This isn't always a good idea though as some sites will not allow you access unless you tell them the referrer. So the ability to check it on/off when needed is killer.

A somewhat related extension is

spoofX: This spoofs a URL as coming from itself. For quite a few pay websites (*cough* pr0n *cough*) you can get full access by just spoofing your referral as being from the members link. Not saying that this is ethical, but hey free high res pr0n!

Thumbs: Speaking of pr0n, there is an extension that turns a link into a thumbnail of an image that's on the page. So if, for example, you had a page of pr0n links, this extension would convert that page into a large number of thumbnail preview images. You can quickly choose your own adventure that way rather than being surprised by what's behind the link.

mashie 12-21-2004 06:21 PM

The tab browsing in FF is great but since it can't handle HTTPS when a proxy is configured it is completely useless for my needs.

msv 02-17-2005 01:28 AM

We have some troubles with an old application that uses macros in Office 97. A webinterface on that application can´t use those macros with IE6.0, but it runs beautifully with Firefox 1.0.
The only thing I´ve found that doesn´t work with Firefox is the "Build Your own car"-function at www.audi.se, that requires IE.
regards
Mikael S.

Susquehannock 02-24-2005 03:15 AM

Firefox all the way! :D

Never liked iE and used Opera browser but it was glitchy. The only problem with
FF 1.0 is that some webpages don't support it.

superart 02-24-2005 12:53 PM

when did u use opera? The new version7 is just as stable as FF.

lukr 02-25-2005 03:22 PM

Opera 8.beta is out for some time. downloadable from Opera's ftp (ftp://ftp.opera.com/ )

superart 02-25-2005 04:09 PM

Im really happy with opera7 right now, and I have exeem beta right now on my system too. Dont like having too many betas installed at once.

Susquehannock 02-26-2005 11:40 PM

Opera - was quite a while back. The part I really liked was the R/L mouse click forward/back
feature. Will have to give it a try again. :)

superart 02-27-2005 01:57 AM

mouse gestures and right click-wheel to switch between pannels is my favorite
that and default saving of sessions--like if your computer crashes or whatever, your session (back/forward status, open pannels, etc) get saved. Very usefull.

maxSaleen 02-27-2005 08:25 AM

That whole tabbed browsing thing.... it just makes so much sense. Yeah, I'm a firefox fanboy.

Etacovda 04-15-2005 02:59 PM

Useful list from a forum i frequent

Quote:

Originally posted by porges
Just thought a thread with lists of various useful Firefox plugins would be nice, they're rather hard to find being scattered all over the internet :p
  • Adblock Ad blocker. (Get filters from http://www.geocities.com/pierceive/adblock/)
  • Bookmark Backup 0.3.3 - Creates a backup of bookmarks.html each time the browser is closed. (There seem to be a couple of bugs with Firefox bookmarks, so for safety...)
  • BugMeNot 0.6.1 - Bypass compulsory web registration with the context menu via www.bugmenot.com. (Good for online newspapers.)
  • ChatZilla 0.9.67 - A simple, straightforward Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client. (IRC in Firefox. Huzzah!)
  • ColorZilla 0.8.2 - Advanced Eyedropper, ColorPicker, Page Zoomer and other colorful goodies.
  • Diggler 0.9 - A URL manipulation tool for power users (Has links to current page in Google cache/archive.org.)
  • Fangs Screen Reader Emulator 0.73 - Renders a text version of a web page similar to screen reader output.
  • fireFTP 0.87 - FTP client for Mozilla Firefox. (FTP in Firefox. Huzzah!)
  • ForecastFox 0.5.9 - Get international weather forecasts from weather.com, and display it in any toolbar or statusbar with this highly customizable extension.
  • FoxyTunes 1.1.1 - Control any media player from Firefox and more... (Hurrah, more screen space.)
  • Gmail Notifier 0.4.2 - A notifier for Gmail accounts. (How could you do without it?)
  • Html Validator (based on Tidy) 0.5.5 - Adds HTML validation to the View Page Source of the browser. The validation is done by Tidy from W3c.
  • IDN Info 0.6.2 - Display information on IDNs (Helps prevent phishing.)
  • Link Toolbar 0.9.1 - A site-navigation toolbar
  • ListZilla 0.5.1 - Outputs an alphabetical list of either extensions or themes to a text, vB code, or HTML file. (What I used to make this :).)
  • Live HTTP Headers 0.10 - View HTTP headers of a page and while browsing.
  • MiniT+ 20050216.1 - Adds a few tab related functions (updated to better version)
  • Mozilla Archive Format 0.4.3 - Save complete web pages in a single file.
  • Sage 1.3.1 - A lightweight RSS and Atom feed aggregator.
  • SessionSaver .2 0.2.1.027 - Magically restores your last browsing session. (One of the best plugins. Everything comes back exactly as it was when you closed Firefox.)
  • SpellBound 0.7.3 - Adds spell checker support to web forms and extensions. (Anti-pedant tool ;).)
  • undoclosetab 20041126 - Adds Undo Close Tab.
  • Web Developer 0.9.3 - Adds a menu and a toolbar with various web developer tools.
  • wmlbrowser 0.6.8 - Display WML (Wireless Markup Language) content. (Browse sites intended for mobile phones. Haven't been able to access Vodafone's however :p)
  • XHTML Ruby Support 1.3.2005022401 - Adds XHTML Ruby support. Ruby texts will be rendered above the base texts, as a small text.
  • ChromEdit 0.1.1.1 - A Simple User Profile File Editor (added)
  • About site 0.1.1 - Quick access to site metadata - traffic, related and linked pages, and more. (added)

Quote:

Originally posted by Etacovda
excellent list, cheers

sessionsaver link needs to be changed, i think

http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more...p/sessionsaver


maxSaleen 09-27-2005 05:36 PM

Firefox all the way. Moreso for the cool looking icon :p Tabbed browsing rules (that is available in a beta of IE 1.whatever). I just wish that when I closed one tab, it would return me to the last tab I was looking at.

superart 09-27-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxSaleen
I just wish that when I closed one tab, it would return me to the last tab I was looking at.

Opera does that. :p

lukr 09-28-2005 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superart
Opera does that. :p

just wanted to say that.

BTW is there an extension that can make coffee? That would be something not built-in in Opera, and would realy use.
:]

dacooltech 09-28-2005 11:34 AM

I've been using with FF for quite some time, and love it... I recently installed Opera 8.5 BTW, and that's a great browser too... Both of them are much better than IE IMHO

superart 09-28-2005 02:11 PM

I've been meaning to install Opera8 for a while.

For those who use it, does it fix the problem with printing web pages that have frames?

That is pretty much the only bug/annoyance that Opera has, IMO.

pHaestus 09-28-2005 03:04 PM

Websites have frames?

jaydee 09-28-2005 07:56 PM

Not sure if that was sarcastic or not but yeah websites use frames. The last one's I built with frames has a top frame a left frame and the main frame. If you click a link on the left frame the window opened in the main frame leaving the top and left frame in view. There are better ways to do it than frames though. Most have moved on to better methods.

superart 09-29-2005 08:45 AM

ph? Sarcastic? nooooo....never.......


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