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Fixittt 02-06-2002 10:56 PM

that illistration up there is how the tops for my spirals are made, but the top is one part instead of 2.

hey jay, ever think of doing an acrylic top? its alot easyer to machine.


Edit:

what i did was machined a pocket for the top to sit into, with rounded corners (because o-rigns done like 90 degree corners) and i machined the acrylic tops with the rame rad. but .100 smaller on the tops, because an o-ring is 1.03. No grove to fit in, just wrap the o-ring around the step in the top, and fit it in. The problem I ran across is that the o-ring I need is an od ball size! Have to wait for the order of them to come in.

EMC2 02-06-2002 11:09 PM

Cool :) That type of seal is fairly common (stepped with the o-ring on the face) in the some industry sectors. Thanks for reminding me that garden variety o-rings are basically circular and need rounded corners :D

(goes off and pounds head on keyboard to get brain working correctly)

Fixittt 02-06-2002 11:11 PM

LOL NP. Yeah I actually got the idea for the o-ring after helping a friend rebuild a transmission, they have big o-rings that do all kinds of turns and such.

jaydee 02-07-2002 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
hey jay, ever think of doing an acrylic top? its alot easyer to machine.
If i did a fancy looking block like your Spiral or the one posted above i would do it, but for now I am not.

The power wemt out here for a couple hours so i switched over to this new block with the circular middle. Leak testing now. Will fire it up in the morning. I am expecting good things from it. On a lesser note I am just about out of time for this stuff. After this weekend I doubt I will have anything going untill next layoff season.

I am going to send you (Fixittt) my code for the original block I made if you want. You may find some use for it. I really like it myself, it is the coolest(temp wise) one I have made so far. The only problem is the sealing of the edges. I was going to use a rubber seal but i have not got around to buying the stuff yet.
http://www.dorrellco.com/aluminumWB/final1al.jpg

Also let me know about the website and how you want to go about it.

EMC2 02-07-2002 02:23 AM

Another option you might think about for sealing that edge Jaydee is good ole Permatex Blue form-a-gasket. I've used it without any other gasketting material on my car coolant systems (heat and pressure there) and never had a leak :D Once it sets up it's a rubbery like substance, and the teflon in it flows very well into the surface imperfections. Not what you might want for a production wb, but for testing and one-ofs it should work just fine.

Kevin 02-07-2002 02:43 AM

I think that form-a-gasket stuff corrodes w/ copper though... check it out to make sure i'm wrong.
-Kev

Brad 02-07-2002 05:20 AM

in case you haven't noticed kev, that block isn't copper ;)

jaydee 02-07-2002 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EMC2
Another option you might think about for sealing that edge Jaydee is good ole Permatex Blue form-a-gasket. I've used it without any other gasketting material on my car coolant systems (heat and pressure there) and never had a leak :D Once it sets up it's a rubbery like substance, and the teflon in it flows very well into the surface imperfections. Not what you might want for a production wb, but for testing and one-ofs it should work just fine.
I actually used RTV Industrial silicone when I tested it. Worked just fine. That is what i am using on all my test blocks and so far so good. I am not sure about using it for sellable blocks, butthat woun't be a problem for a while anyway.

Got this new block up and it is doing rather poorly. I think I may have it mounted wrong. Dosn't look to square sitting on the socket. Thats what I get for doing it while the power was out and using a 1 candle power candle.:D

Going to remount it and try again.

Right now it is 11C over water temp with the XP1600+@1554mhz 148FSB 2.05Vcore. Which actaully isn't tooooo bad but not as good as I am aiming for. 27C water, 38C CPU under SETI load. it can do better.

jaydee 02-07-2002 11:03 AM

I remounted it and now it is 10C over water temp with SETI load. Still not close to what I want. The center inlet maybe the key. I will get to that tomorrow after a remill my last block and test it tonight.

To many things to get done by Sunday.

scythe 02-07-2002 02:17 PM

maybe , but i dont know that block doesnt have alot of surface area. That could be the problem though the groove bumps you made in the bottom might help but not enough.

Fixittt 02-07-2002 02:21 PM

hey jay I didnt get your email, sorry buddy, can U re send it, also can U send me the DXF file for that block in this thread? I have some ideas......... OHH bayBEE!!! man do I have some ideas!

jaydee 02-07-2002 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
hey jay I didnt get your email, sorry buddy, can U re send it, also can U send me the DXF file for that block in this thread? I have some ideas......... OHH bayBEE!!! man do I have some ideas!
I have a DXF for my original block that is complete and a chiller, but the one for the block I posted in this thread is not 100% done. I can send what I got.


Send me an e-mail at jaydee116@attbi.com so I have your correct address.

jaydee 02-07-2002 02:53 PM

Doh I got my posts mixed up!!! I don't have a DXF for this block. I just manually made the code and then used the hand wheels to make the inside posts deals. I can send you the GNC code but it just makes the outside circle.

jaydee 02-07-2002 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaydee116
Doh I got my posts mixed up!!! I don't have a DXF for this block. I just manually made the code and then used the hand wheels to make the inside posts deals. I can send you the GNC code but it just makes the outside circle.
Ok Fixittt I just made a DXF for this circular block. I "think" it should work the way i wanted it to . I don't have the GNC code though. Shoot me an e-mail and I will send you 6 DFX files that I have. They may need a little tweaking for your setup.

Those will include all the blocks I posted here and even the finned one plus a few other things.

Fixittt 02-07-2002 03:22 PM

fixittt@cimtel.net

jaydee 02-07-2002 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
fixittt@cimtel.net
I just sent you 6 DXF files and my FTP info to that address. If you don't get it let me know.

Fixittt 02-07-2002 03:48 PM

ok, playing in solid works, here is one of my ideas.

http://www.borderbuyer.com/fixittt/blocks/jaydeeblk.jpg

morphling1 02-07-2002 04:21 PM

Fins in the chanell, that's the idea what I'm playing with a long time. Now that I'm getting Bob CAD I'll help my friend writing g-code and than try this variation of my desing http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/spiral1.JPG ,something very close to that I made myself on my vertical drill machine and it's performing great
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Ultimat...hed%20mill.JPG
You know the rest.

morphling1 02-07-2002 04:25 PM

Oh and here is another idea for chipset/gpu waterblock
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/chipset.JPG
I've got to learn how to make g-code with ProE, it's almost automatic, and it's simply post process to every machine.

scythe 02-07-2002 04:29 PM

can you make the gcode for my design?

jaydee 02-07-2002 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
ok, playing in solid works, here is one of my ideas.

http://www.borderbuyer.com/fixittt/blocks/jaydeeblk.jpg

I thought about that very same thing a few times. I think it may work. maybe mill one withoutthe fin and one with the fin and test against each other. Is that off the DXF I sent you of my original block?

morphling1 02-07-2002 04:37 PM

There one problem I'm not much at home every two week until end of April because I'm serving the Army so I don't have a lot of time. Which is your desing again?

scythe 02-07-2002 04:53 PM

http://24.247.99.28:8080/images/block2.jpg

Fixittt 02-07-2002 04:58 PM

No I drew that up while waiting for your designs.

took what I seen of the block U milled and played with it a bit.

I have bob cam too, but my pass code doesnt work with it... god damn them!!!!! cant get no one to answer my emails. either.

jaydee 02-07-2002 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
No I drew that up while waiting for your designs.

took what I seen of the block U milled and played with it a bit.

I have bob cam too, but my pass code doesnt work with it... god damn them!!!!! cant get no one to answer my emails. either.

Did you get the e-mail?


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