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Puzzdre 04-14-2003 03:30 PM

:) Thanx Bob!

Think that my mother's Renault 5 with automatic transmission box will suffer because of this...;)

jaydee 04-14-2003 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by Puzzdre

Think that my mother's Renault 5 with automatic transmission box will suffer because of this...;)

Nah. :evilaugh:

Puzzdre 04-14-2003 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by jaydee116
You guys have cars over there? :shrug:

http://www.gopurepower.com/purepower_transmission.html

LOL, I'm sure you guys there wouldn't call 'em cars but toys, but the similarity is obvious: four wheels, some heavy boxes, bunch of wires, several sq feet of tin and (in some cases, cars 20 yrs old and older) a smoke barrier.
No, those blonde chicks sitting on the passenger side on the pics are not delivered with the cars, not even here. Trust me, I bought three bath tubs, and they all came empty.:mad: :p

Cheers!

jaydee 04-14-2003 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by Puzzdre
LOL, I'm sure you guys there wouldn't call 'em cars but toys, but the similarity is obvious: four wheels, some heavy boxes, bunch of wires, several sq feet of tin and (in some cases, cars 20 yrs old and older) a smoke barrier.
No, those blonde chicks sitting on the passenger side on the pics are not delivered with the cars, not even here. Trust me, I bought three bath tubs, and they all came empty.:mad: :p

Cheers!

My truck is 17 years old.... car before that was 19 years old and the one before that was 33 years old. They didn't even come with a used Blonde! :mad: :p

bigben2k 04-14-2003 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by Puzzdre
Think that my mother's Renault 5 with automatic transmission box will suffer because of this...;)
A renault5 with an automatic tranny? That's a crime! It must be driven standard, it's the only way!

LiquidRulez 04-14-2003 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by Volenti
with a sharp bit it generally comes out pretty smooth, smooth enough to polish up with a dremel polishing tip and some medium cut paste, even if you don't polish it when it's wet it usually clears up pretty well.
If Im really pressed for a super clear finish, I use tungten carbide bits for a dremel, and mill the final passes on the edges, at about 2500RPM's. And you wont have to worry about any uneven edges, as you sometimes get with a polishing wheel.

Comes out so smooth and clear ........almost perfect.

Volenti 04-15-2003 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
The white stuff is the same that Volenti used in his prototype...

Volenti, did you do this?

I was wondering how long it would take you guys to figure it out;) , the gasket material is a dead giveaway.:D

Gulp35 04-15-2003 07:12 AM

How has it performed now that you have revealed yourself?
Also where do you get that gasket material?

Volenti 04-15-2003 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by Gulp35
How has it performed now that you have revealed yourself?
Also where do you get that gasket material?

it's about 1-2 degrees off my micropin block, I had to de-tune the jet's so the block could be used with the pumps most people use, Eheim 1046* minimum, recomended 1250* or higher. I'll offer a tuned jet version for people who have iwaki pumps or simlar. (though there's nothing stopping you from using the tuned version with a pond pump, it'll work, it'll just slaughter the flowrate, you'll get around 200-250L/h with a 1250.)

*or equivalent.

hara 04-15-2003 07:39 AM

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I was wondering how long it would take you guys to figure it out , the gasket material is a dead giveaway.
I also noticed that you were austailian, the company was also australian. I also noticed the L.E.Ds. It's your signiture. Why did you steal Ben's idea?

Volenti 04-15-2003 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by hara
I also noticed that you were austailian, the company was also australian. I also noticed the L.E.Ds. It's your signiture. Why did you steal Ben's idea?
Ben's idea? this multiple jet approach is an evolution of my direct die cooling from last year if anything it's #Rotor's drilled blocks that I've used elements of.

Props for Big ben for publishing a similar design principle that I was working on behind closed doors.

bigben2k 04-15-2003 09:06 AM

Hey, no harm done!

But it was meant as a DIY design, because it's so simple to make. If you can sell it for ~$80-90 USD, all the best!

I need to get into that myself. Maybe I'll bug the resellers of JFettig's work.

Volenti 04-15-2003 09:17 AM

Well I'll have to let the market decide if that is the right price;)

Your Radius block should be a good seller if it can be made cost effectively.

Gulp35 04-15-2003 09:24 AM

So what do you think I could get when using 2 maxijets in serial?

Also I have a 1"x1"x1/8" peice of silver that I could use but it is too small for mounting bolts through to use a gasket, could i use JB Weld or somehting Similar to bond them together?

bigben2k 04-15-2003 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Volenti
Well I'll have to let the market decide if that is the right price;)

Your Radius block should be a good seller if it can be made cost effectively.

I doubt it could be made cost effective, plus it will require a very strong pump. I dunno. Maybe I could sell it as a kit, if I can get a machine shop to make this thing locally.

I want to start a website first, and post a lot of info.

bigben2k 04-15-2003 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Gulp35
So what do you think I could get when using 2 maxijets in serial?

Also I have a 1"x1"x1/8" peice of silver that I could use but it is too small for mounting bolts through to use a gasket, could i use JB Weld or somehting Similar to bond them together?

Extending the mounts isn't a big problem: use a polycarb top. As for sealing the block... I'd go with a 2 part epoxy that'll bond with the silver, and the polycarb (or acrylic). I'm not sure if JB Weld can do that. Anyone?

hara 04-15-2003 04:16 PM

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I don't know if this has been discussed below. Idea #1 involves a clunk of copper, lathed and the dimples or holes point inwards. A top piece has to be lathed to fit the base. This design is unecessarily complex but interesting.

Idea #2 involves a block of copper with the dimples drilled at an angle. These can be drilled using a drill press and round feed table or with a 4-axis cns with round feed table or a 5 axis cnc :D

The top needn't match the angle of the base in idea #2

bigben2k 04-15-2003 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by hara
I don't know if this has been discussed below. Idea #1 involves a clunk of copper, lathed and the dimples or holes point inwards. A top piece has to be lathed to fit the base. This design is unecessarily complex but interesting.

Idea #2 involves a block of copper with the dimples drilled at an angle. These can be drilled using a drill press and round feed table or with a 4-axis cns with round feed table or a 5 axis cnc :D

The top needn't match the angle of the base in idea #2

Start your own thread:mad: :p

hara 04-15-2003 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
Start your own thread:mad: :p
It's just a continuation of your own idea, doesn't deserve a new thread :p

If you want, I can delete it

bigben2k 04-15-2003 04:39 PM

...but this is a DIY design: keep it simple, OK?;)

hara 04-15-2003 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
...but this is a DIY design: keep it simple, OK?;)
Is there anybody who hasn't got a 5-axis CNC?

Seriously, all that is required is a round feed table and a sturdy drill press if you want to go DIY.

Puzzdre 04-15-2003 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by hara
Is there anybody who hasn't got a 5-axis CNC?

Seriously, all that is required is a round feed table and a sturdy drill press if you want to go DIY.


Pffft, my has 5.1 axis, actually .1 means it can travel through time, usually from the time of raw material straight to the time when I already messed it up and it's useless.

Should I disable the feature, or just go back to my drill press (no round feed table here)...

jaydee 04-15-2003 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by hara
Is there anybody who hasn't got a 5-axis CNC?

Seriously, all that is required is a round feed table and a sturdy drill press if you want to go DIY.

Mine is only 3 axis...:(

LiquidRulez 04-15-2003 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Puzzdre
Pffft, my has 5.1 axis, actually .1 means it can travel through time, usually from the time of raw material straight to the time when I already messed it up and it's useless.

Should I disable the feature, or just go back to my drill press (no round feed table here)...

LMFAO!

A time travelling mill!!

Almost had a heart attack on that one!!

JFettig 04-16-2003 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by bigben2k
Hey, no harm done!

But it was meant as a DIY design, because it's so simple to make. If you can sell it for ~$80-90 USD, all the best!

I need to get into that myself. Maybe I'll bug the resellers of JFettig's work.

I didnt exactly catch that...? now Im confused....


Jon

bigben2k 04-16-2003 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by JFettig
I didnt exactly catch that...? now Im confused....
Aren't a couple of your designs up for sale over the web? I could have sworn I've seen them recently.

JFettig 04-19-2003 01:46 PM

oh yeah, one is kinda:p

casemod hasnt really sold any though;) they got 6 made for them and 6 for me, I sold 4 of mine:p thats about it. they arent super blocks, but are pretty good...


Im working on some good blocks. I have to order some copper so I can get to work on a copper proto(aluminum blocks dont outperform copper blocks by much;)


Jon

Gulp35 04-24-2003 07:00 PM

My adaptation to BB2k/Volenti Design
 
http://www.helmetofshame.com/vanderc.../honeycomb.jpg
It uses 10 nozzels 1/16" in diameter, the bottom dimples are 3/16" in diameter, The red area under the nozzle diagram is the CPU core and the Dark red is 2mm away from the edge of the CPU core.

I'm gonna buy this once I get some copper (1/8" thick) and buy my pumps (2 maxijet1200s)

EDIT: To get the pic to work, right click it, and choose properties. then copy and paste the URL into your nav bar. Sorry about the inconvieniece :EDIT


http://www.helmetofshame.com/vanderc.../honeycomb.jpg

bigben2k 04-25-2003 06:51 AM

Re: My adaptation to BB2k/Volenti Design
 
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Originally posted by Gulp35
I'm gonna buy this once I get some copper (1/8" thick) and buy my pumps (2 maxijet1200s)
The pic didn't work for me, but otherwise, that's the way to go!

Gulp35 05-09-2003 01:12 PM

updated my pics they now work when you click on the link


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