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Dito!...

Whats the point? People understood what I was trying to say....if you didn't.....well....

LOL! :D

Don't take it personally Skeptic. MadDog is the last one on this forum that would be trying to flame you. :)

Did you clear CMOS at some point? Probably ram timings are the issue if 3dmark is performing worse. FSB and ram timings make a huge difference in the score that benchmark reports.

I bet that cpu isnt reading what it should in the bios.

It did that to me as well a couple of times. I must have hit the battery on my cmos

so far some interesting results coming out on the maze4 (edit: in this thread). I know these are far from definitive reviews/tests, but the preliminary results on the maze4 appear disappointing (edit: relative to the maze3). Still waiting for someone to do a formal review of this block with a proper test bench [hint]...

quote from the dangerden webpage"

"block does offer improvements over the MAZE3 - Less water flow restriction, improved peltier clamping, lighter block design, better cooling, improved look, and more"

...and that's entirely accurate. It just didn't state that the performance would be an improvement. ;)

For someone just getting into watercooling, or for someone wanting to get into pelts, this block is still the top choice.

I dunno.. making a new revision and saying it gives you better cooling. That kinda states better perfomance imho. I think your being way to easy on em bigben2k.

And if this is the top choice.. why not just get a m3?

I dunno, I thought the part about "better cooling" over the Maze3 meant that it would cool better. :D

It doesn't cool better with my tests, but I am far from an expert. I personally like the Maze 3 temps better and I love my 2600+ at 2.5 ghz. 8)

Thought I would rub it in a little. :evilaugh:

Jay, what's the best way to get air out of a system? The highest point in my box is the rad. I have 1 extra place I can place piping into my reservoir and run a tube out and up through the top of the case...is this optimal?

if the rad is the highest, best bet (if it's not too inconvenient) is to take it out and lay out WC system so the rad isn't the highest and let it run overnight. I've always had my rad highest, and its a bitch to get all the air out when installed in the case (I'm usually forced to leave the PC on its backside overnight w/ the T fill tube sticking up (rad is then sitting on its side with outtake barb highest). Either that or give the PC a good shake every once it awhile to get the air out of the rad.

You want your fill tube/air trap to be the highest point. I been thinking about drilling and soldering in a barb on the rad on the oposite side the other barbs are on (or on top oif the rad if it is upright) and attaching a fill tube there. I think the rad itself would work fine for an air trap as long as the air has a place to escape.

I think my rad sometimes thinks its suppose to be an airtrap instead of a radiator...:p

Hmm, that just made me realize... these two are my first 2 gig procs for that matter... not only that, but its my first time overclocking! well, actually I overclocked my vid card for about a week a year or two ago... but its my first time o/cing a CPU! I've been browsing overclocker sites so long I didn't even realize it :eek:

Well, I didn't really feel like taking all this apart again and pulling it out of the case. SO I basically put my comp on its back end so my res was the highest point. What I need to do now is figure out a way to install a removable fill tube(?) or think about it another way.

In my first water cooled case, I had a Chevette core mounted horizontally at the top of an old, narrow, cramped full tower. The inlet/outlet were pointing down, and the inlet/outlet tanks were slightly higher than the other end of the core. I cut a 1/8" NPT brass pipe coupling in half, drilled holes opposite the inlet/outlet and soldered the bungs to the tank. I would remove both pipe plugs for the initial fill with the pump off, and just the suction side plug with the pump running to top it off. Only drawback was no coolant reserve, but your idea solves that.

You don't want it removable as you will be topping the system off now and then and you need to leave a place for air to get caught up in.

Isnt this thread for a maze4 review?
Back on topic :)
Last ontopic post was the ridicule of a DD claiming better cooling. If they did, couldn't we conclude that the marketing wasn't on the up and up? I just verified the claim from July 1st on their website. I frankly am dissapointed.

Another question: On their website, what is a DD Maze4 GPU? Is it just a cheaper run gpu coming out at the same time as the Maze4? Did anyone review this as well?

http://www.procooling.com/~phaestus/temp/Maze4.jpg
Maybe that chipset cooler doubles as a GPU block...

I wish I had a Maze 3 to compare with. The Maze 4 I have I thought did pretty decent. The air to CPU and water to CPU temps were pretty good numbers....

Nahh, I believe the GPU blocks winewood is referring to are these:

http://cooltechnica.com/Merchant2/gr...U_Purp-250.jpg

I'm also curious, anyone posted a review on one of these?

I just ordered a GPU block and it doesn't look anything like that. In fact it is this one:

http://www.dangerden.com/images/GF4/geforce4_s.gif

I am waiting on testing it out until i see a definitive how-to for the GeForce FX 5900 Ultra card I have. This cost me $500 bucks, and there is NO WAY in hell I am going to try and experiment with getting the, what looks to me, a solid piece for ram sinks, and gpu cooler set.

I am afraid I might break something, so i will let someone else do some experimenting first. 8)

actually the maze4 GPU looks a little like the swiftechMCW-50 in design (I don't know how the inside/base of the maze4 gpu looks like). The swifty performs quite well despite its low profile.

edited: depending on which ever reviews choose you believe the swifty is as good as the old DD gpu block or slightly better. inside base has a nice diamond pattern notched into it.

http://www.swiftnets.com/assets/imag...CW50/MCW50.jpg

Just for shits and giggles, what were your onboard readings?

They are all posted. Onboard and TC.

Copy and pasted from my previous replies:

XP1700+@1800mhz
1.75V
Abit KD7

Thermocoupler under CPU with socket mod: 43C
Onboard from Windbond software that came with board: 40C
Room temp: 26C
Water temp: 30C


XP1700+ TBred A
2.0V
2000mhz

Load Temps:
Room Temp: 26C
Water Temp: 33C
TC: 51C
Onboard: 47.5C

thx, :)

I was wondering do you have to get a connector to attach the thermocouple to the multimeter Jaydee as i was looking at thermocouple's on the net and i was wondering will they come with a connector that i can use with me multimeter.