I must admit I did look at central heating pumps at one stage... they're rugged and quiet. But they're also big, heavy, and do not have the highest of flows...

Today I've been mostly leak-testing my circuit which includes the Johnson CM30P7-1. It has a low volume whine, but puts out some serious flow! I'm keeping an eye on its operating temps. Fingers crossed.

Given the speed of the flow, I think I can in future easily replace the pump with that Australian model, and sacrifice a bit of flow for longevity. After all, flow don't mean a thing, when the pump fails...

:( Hi Nexxo!
Don't bother about the longevity as long as you have a failsafe (Asus COP, BIOS shutdown on CPU overheating, or any kind of flow monitoring)...
I currently use a Eheim 1250 (which is way to weak with the restrictive setup I have actually).
I just replaced my Maze3 with "THE" Cascade WB :D , have still to leaktest it and I'm really curious about the final flowrate (4.40lpm with the Maze3, probably a lot lower with the Cascade).
I also currently own two Johnson C030's from Surplus Center which have a GREAT flow (apart from their leak and longevity issues).
The Johnson is about the maximum noise level I can stand for a waterpump (compared to my silent 1250), so the Laing D4 is out of the question for me...
I will probably use my two Johnsons until they fail or break down (I payed an equivalent of 200+ us$ for them... :( )
Another option is to power the Johnson though a variable PSU and lower the applied voltage (as it's quite overpowered for my setup). See also my post at OCAU

CD :)

PS: Liked to buy and test an Swiftech MCP600 if I can finally find an european distributor for it (VAT and import taxes from the US are killing me...)

:eek: :eek:

125 Euro for something that sells in the USA for 66 Euro (not including taxes).

125 Euro is $201 Aussie. The MCP600 sells here for $142 Aussie (which includes all applicable taxes), which is about 88 EUR, and Europe is a heck of a lot closer to the USA than Australia is.

Yes i already knew that shop but i prefer to wait... geeze.

welcome to rip-off europe... :(

19% VAT in the Netherlands - so its 105 Euro+ tax

only UK supplier
http://store.over-clock.com/Pumps___Accessories.html
charges £58.57 (but has no stock) just under £50+17.5% uk VAT - which is about 10% more (pretax) than the US rrp...

its also sold here but they don't have stock iirc
http://www.aubonmicro.com/Recherche2...tere3=SWIFTECH

1 question:

If anyone here was kind enouf to buy one and send it to europe, the VAT and other taxes would apply?

legally yes - how likely portugese customs would be to pick up on it i have no idea...

these US sellers will export...
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/fro...ex-pmp-15.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com./swmcinpu.html
http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant...ategory_Code=P
http://www.xtwerkz.com/liquid_cooling_parts.htm

Available for €70 here and that's a UK supplier so likely to be cheaper on shipping and customs than US.

When I get something ship here (Canada) from the US and ask the seller to declare it as a gift, I wont pay any custom's fees nor taxes. Only downside is that the maximum value is pretty low (cant remember if it is 50 or 100$).
Something similar might be in effect in your country.

it is - but the value is very low ... 45 Euro :( (it's the same value throughout the EC)

Wow nice price!
Damn out of stock... gonna email them :D

Why bother.
99 here in Portugal.
Shipping plus taxes plus administration fees (or whatever they want to call it) will probably put the initial 70 to about 90ish .
Better buy here, get proper shop warranty.

Só agora?? :D

Thanks!

It's portuguese, im just complaining about prices :

É isso. Só agora. Apesar de dizer MCP600-01 , é apenas a referencia da loja (espero), porque a remessa é das novas (pelo que me parece).
Mas pelo preço ... porra.
A Laing , pelo que o Cathar deu a crer no OCAU , é 90 mais portes , e bem ... é melhor. Algo a considerar.

I just ordered 2 at sidewinder (66 euro each via paypal). they shipped them as replacement parts. No tax and only 15 euro shipping :) (also Netherlands)

cool - how long did they take to arrive?

A laing parece barulhenta, esperar que alguém a tenha.

Still that one looks cheaper at 66+ shipping!

about 6 days..

Hi Turbokeu! No worries-- I have a flow switch with a PIC controlled monitoring and shutdown system, on top of the mobo failsafes. But I'd hate to have to worry about replacing the pump in two years (cost me enough as it is...). I'm looking at a slightly more "cool and forget" setup. Besides though not loud, the pump is a bit noisier than I would like. Perhaps Cathar can tell me a bit about the noise levels of the Davies-Craig?

wow - thats not bad for 15 euro.... :)

Is it noisy fhorst?