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bigben2k 02-10-2004 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butcher
Most ICs are fine as long as they're below 100C. 45C is certainly not "on the hot side". :p

Well, true, but that'll depend on the type of IC. With MOSFETs, temps can reach in excess of 100 deg C and still be nominal.

Either way, the point was that a 10 deg C drop will double the life component, and that still stands. ;)

Gooserider 02-10-2004 10:44 PM

Butcher, you'll find lots of info on silently mounting and cooling HDD's over on Silent PC Review (spcr.com) - they have a forum just on the topic of silencing hard drives.

Gooserider

MMZ_TimeLord 02-11-2004 02:20 AM

I can say for sure it was the block that caused the data errors :mad: ... the drive is actually working fine... it just had errors that had to be corrected. Once the block was removed I didn't hear the heads "realigning" themselves (read: "banging" :cry: ).

I suspect had my tolerences of the block mounting been better with just one or two thousandths clearance on the spindle motor it would not have occured. :rolleyes:

I believe that the clamping force of that 1/2" copper block could EASILY warp the aluminum casing. I will be revisiting the whole setup anyway as I'm now ZeroFilling the drive to recover the low level format.

I will probably go with stacked drives and a cage made from copper with water passages on each side and a loop in the front to connect them. :shrug:

This will also save space in the case as I have a lot of tubing and a large reservior. Not to mention that I got an additional two drives to make the RAID 0 into a RAID 0 + 1. :D

Arcturius 02-11-2004 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMZ_TimeLord
Not to mention that I got an additional two drives to make the RAID 0 into a RAID 0 + 1. :D

Nothing like a near miss to make you appreciate increased reliability, huh? :D
On paper, 0+1 only has the reliability of a standalone drive, but I like the fact that it gives you a chance to quickly swap out a drive when one of them fails...
...I'm not so fond of the performance hit it gives when working with ATA disks. But it's still a nice compromise. :)

starbuck3733t 03-02-2004 10:14 AM

Bump :) How's the construction going ben?

bigben2k 03-02-2004 10:56 AM

On hold, pending more copper.

So much work to do, so little time...

I'll post pics of the progress, as it comes.

starbuck3733t 03-08-2004 12:37 PM

Glad to hear you're still going. Copper is expensive.

I just got mine, but I'm taking a different approach than you. I got some 3/16" plate for the top and bottom, and 3' of 1/2" wide x 1/4" thick bar for the sides. I figure I can cut it to length and make the middle "box" out of it. Then have a piece of the bar running down the center so the water has to move in U to get around the block. I'll post details when I get to it. It'll be fun tryign to solder all that crap together I suspect.

|kbn| 03-08-2004 03:33 PM

Im going to be making a hdd block soon, after ive finnished some others. Im thinking about how to do it. id like to combine this type of mounting http://www.spodesabode.com/content/a...hddnoise/print
with a way of silently cooling the drive enough, so that when its wrapped in foam, it wont overheat.
On my drives, currently mounted in a steel drive cage, the sides are not very hot, about 45c, but a few chips are about 65c

bigben2k 08-05-2004 06:17 PM

An update, since this thread is creeping back up...

I got the copper.

end of update. :D

The plan still stands though. The only regret I have so far is picking out the external walls of each block at 1/4" thick: they can be a lot thinner.

Etacovda 08-05-2004 06:29 PM

Lol, i see how you got your custom tag now :p

dethmetaljeff 08-23-2004 03:01 PM

Im considering watercooling my hds so i can put them into an enclosure and finally get rid of that annoying whine. My only question is how should i put the hd's into my water cooling loop. I currently only have a CPU block, so should I just put it in series with that, or would a parallel config be better?

bigben2k 08-23-2004 04:50 PM

In series, definitely.

The pressure drop of an HDD block *should* be minimal, and wouldn't have a significant impact on coolant temp.

Otherwise, the heatload from an HDD is quite minimal (at least the heat transfered to the block) and so it's really not going to matter a whole lot how it's set up, but putting it in parallel, would cause a significant drop in flow for the rest of the system, so "in series" is always advisable.


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