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You dont need any lawyer to do it and best of all you get early filing date of the PPA if and when you decide to go with a formal patent application within one year from original PPA date. And it doesnt even get reviewed by a patent clerk or require all of the paperwork and hassles of a formal patent application that would usually require the expertise of a patent attorney,due to its severe complexity and extensive researching reqirements that are readily available to registered patent attorneys. if cathar decided to do something of the sort,after research he may find that he cant claim either jet impingement, nor microchannels as being his idea in its functional form and application. And will have wasted alot of money just to find this out. I would have just put in for the PPA before revealing it to anyone. This would have insured me from anyone using my design in any way shape or form for a year from filing date. Bottom line is ALWAYS protect yourself and your unique ideas. Its too easy to get screwed over,and usually done by those you trust first. Anyway, thanks for shedding some light on the subject and lets let it RIP. LR |
Wow that is nice, I have never been in this part of the forum, too technical & confusing for me, still is, too many big words like micro & channel:D . Anyways very nice block.
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Yeah. ......Morphling is a god with a mill!
Getting better every revision |
Are you selling those blocks or is it just to show? I am interested if you sell... to a good price of course... :)
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Uf, finaly got some time off to finish silver block for me :)
This is modified version with extremly small microchannels, this will prolly be the only block of this kind I'll ever make, I haven't realy test how much it restrict water, I'll do that tomorrow. Here's pic http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Mk4/sil...0evo%20001.JPG updates comming soon |
OMG! What did you use to make those tiny channels?!?
Did you consider any kind of fin to channel ratio? |
lord morph, the collectors would fight for that one
good looker even if the CPU got hotter ! |
Hehe, If I can push water through that the effect will be very very good, I'm doing flow test tomorrow.
Btw. I'm already looking to some special high preasure pumps :) |
Ok performanse numbers. First I must say the block is very restrictive as I thought (even more) so normal submersible pump can't handle that. That's why I connected the block on direct line high preasure tap water, and open the valve so I got ~ 500l/h Water temp was constant 14°C my tbred 1700+ overclocked to 2700 MHz 2.025V where folding @ home temp was 26°C on Epox 8rda sensor. Results are ~4 degrees lower the with previous Cu block in my regular setup with water temps compensated.
After seeing this I'm very much thinking about using central heating circulating pump with head more then 10m and adjustable rpm's and skip radiator all together and just dig the holes near my basement computer room, lay some copper pipes and have high performanse ultra silent setup. And the room is also on the north side so the ground should remain relatively cool even on summer. |
Ultra thin slitting saw? :drool: Nice...
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Damn! ! ! !
That is beautiful morph! Id like to see some pics of it put together. You got enough silver shavings left from that other block to make that?? Nice job. Did you make those barbs?Never seen any like em.... |
just beautiful work there. I am also curious where you got those barbs from too.
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OK, they´re most likely filled with unspeakable substances from years of usage, they´re made from cast iron witch may cause battery effect. Would there be any point in trying? regards Mikael S. I´m really godd at stupid idéas. |
BTW, that silverblock of Yours makes me jealous.
Impressive! regards Mikael S. |
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http://www.waterheads.dk/ |
I really have to visit Slovenia... The most beautiful women are there, and now some very fine waterblocks as well ;)
Wall mount rads: i'd really like to find an all-copper wall mount rad... would be neat. |
Fascinating piece of art.
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Morphling!, could'nt you get away (spacewise) with putting a bigger outlet barb in there?, a 3/8~BSP sized barb would be excellent 5/8 AKA 16mm with a 14mm inner I/D would allow a nice pressure drop to increase impingment would'nt it?. 8mm I/D is certainly too much back pressure!, why not drill them out at least?, stainless will maintane strenght at a very thin wall thickness (it may be sharp enough to damage tubing though)...
Have you thought about epoxy/bonding 13mm Cu pipe in the top instead of threading it for barbs?, the outside profile is simular to a 1/2 barb but with much superior inner diametre... Gorgeous block by the way ;) , same with the GPU block I saw last (cept I did'nt like the push fittings, minor detail! :D )... Have you really submited a Cu version to 'BAd'ams (:p) for testing?, have you heard any feedback yet?... |
Impressive, MOST impressive! !
Xtreme good looks and Xtreme performance, best of all worlds! ! Best I can do, still doesn't really do that amazing block justice. And BillA is right, would be sure to sell really well. BE edit: For a powerfull pump of high head, how about a Iwaki MD20 rlzt? Expensive, but much less noise than a general heating or home water pump, & 22 ft. of head @ 2.9 gpm flow rate. Or to really go over the top: Iwaki MD 30 rlzt @ 4.6 gpm & 36 ft. of head. The MD 30 would meet your 10m of head goal. Although I have no idea if they sell these in your country or not. |
LOL! Just saw that you have MILLED your own heatsink! Thats worth some respect!
edit: AND a NB in silver?!?! crazy..! |
I can't wait till I get my Block from you
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how can I find out where to purchase a p4 block from morphling? I cant find any info on it....
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@MadDogMe, I would have to slightly change the design to fit bigger barbs. Drilling in stainless steel barb is possible, but because my are straight rounded,secure fastening one before drilling would be little difficult, I would have to screw it in some metal block and then secure that one in vise, and then drill through. I may try that sometimes, but I realy can't see much temperature difference with slightly better flow, because even if I power on my second pump which improve flow rate, I can't at least in my setup notice any temp. difference. As for Bill Adams test, I know I said it some time ago that I will send one, but time, time, time is what I don't have especialy this time of year, I still want to do it and I will but can't realy say when. @Blackeagle, Iwakis are just wishfull thinking here, no I can't found one. But at least for case setup they are too big for me. But for ground cooling they are good, but for about the same money I can buy Grundfos circulating pump, which at least for me are even better but bigger, but that isn't the problem with that kind of setup @ChrioN, :D because I got the chance, why not NB in silver too. I'm slowly (very) putting my second rig together with DodgeViper beautiful double shrouded core together and I'll use silver blocks there. |
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Very good lookin block =) your crazy, not many people would dare to try silver ;) So your building a second watercooled setup, nice but please answer my pm =) Keep up the good work regards |
I'm just wandering how's the issue of galvanic corrosion between silver and copper. Maybe that could be the excuse you need to build an all silver setup? :D
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LOL :D unfortunatly ther is no problem between those two materials, so no silver core for me :)
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Thinking about the barbs they'd be a nightmare to drill whatever being SS, whenevr I've drilled SS it's used one drillbit per hole :( , in light gauge sheet steel!, it'd take ten drillbits to get through those mothers!! :D ...
You're right I think, jet~impingment does'nt do the cooling on your block, it's purely the thin channels making 'all' the water contact the medium... |
Money sent Morphling1:cool:
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You all just gotta wait inline until I get mine from Morpling1 :D
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Morpgling 1,
Do you still sell these blocks?Haven't seen you in any forums recently |
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