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Phoenix32 06-30-2006 01:41 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ssli

I have SNAP2000 v3.4.803, BIOS2.xx, Hardware 2.xx

I could be wrong, but I think he wanted to know what you were doing that you maybe need v4 OS instead of v3 OS or vice versa.

dreamignition 07-02-2006 01:26 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Hi:

Could someone e-mail me 3.4.805? I have a 2000 and want to expand the drives beyond the 2x20GB that it came with. If it is available from someone, it would be great if the .SUP could be e-mailed to dreamignition@gmail.com

THANK YOU!

blue68f100 07-02-2006 07:45 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Some early models want upgrade. Post your 2000 vitals.

alainm 07-05-2006 05:48 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Ijust bought a 160gig HD and would like to be able to use all of it but my Snap 1000 only see 132, from what i read i am to late in requesting Quantum to give me the free upgrade, if in any way it could find it's way in to my email box it would be great
alainm@techie.com

Model Software Hardware Server # BIOS
1000 series 3.4.772 (US) 2.0.2 167xxx 3.4.758

jshatsoff 07-05-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
How big are the upgrade files...looking for 3.4.805


Model 2000 series
Software 3.4.772 (US)
Hardware 2.0.0
Server # 50498
BIOS 2.0.282

re3dyb0y 07-07-2006 08:03 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alainm
Ijust bought a 160gig HD and would like to be able to use all of it but my Snap 1000 only see 132, from what i read i am to late in requesting Quantum to give me the free upgrade, if in any way it could find it's way in to my email box it would be great
alainm@techie.com

Model Software Hardware Server # BIOS
1000 series 3.4.772 (US) 2.0.2 167xxx 3.4.758

Quantum aint owned the snap server part for a while.

hugo2000 07-08-2006 05:41 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Well half a week of working on my Snap 2000 still hasn't resulted in a bigger HD. I started with 2x6GB and wanted to at least swap in a Hitachi 40GB drive. First PcConnection sent me an ATA 133 drive, which was listed as 100 on their site. So I had to download the Hitachi HD utility and reset it to 100.

Then I blew the Snap fuse - easily replaced at the local Radio Shack for their last pack of 2 amp fuses. I've now tried every combination of slave/master, one drive, both drives, left/right, up/now. The new drive still isn't recognized by the Snap OS.

So I'm down to the Snap OS. I have v 3.1.618 and bios 1.2.180. I'm figuring I need to upload to the mythical 3.4.803/805. Can some kind soul please let me know where I can obtain the correct .sup file or e-mail it to me n5 at mwpsoft.com.

I've read through all the upgrade postings here and unless I'm missing something. I don't know what else to try after doing the OS upgrade.

Any other help would be appreciated. I love my Snap and I'm not ready to replace it with something else.

Thanks.
Nigel

Snap 2000
Rebooted only 10 times since 1998 (normal use)
Only one crash

blue68f100 07-08-2006 06:36 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
You have a version 1 2000. It does not support LBA48bit. So the max will be < 137gig. V3 supports HD up to 137gig. This old unit only has a ATA66 interface, 40 conductor cable. It will not work with a EIDE interface.

To upgrade the HD's, config the unit for JBOD. Once complete, shutdown and install 2 new drives. The drives should be set M/S, with the master on the end of cable. The drives must be clean, NO UNIX file structure. Restart the unit. The Disk LED should stay on for some time. It takes 10 min for the system to copied from flashram to HD. After that time you should be able to connect and monitor the disk formating status.

As far as fuse blowing it was due to the RF shield at the drives power connectors. That is where I had the problem.

hugo2000 07-09-2006 01:37 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue68f100
You have a version 1 2000. It does not support LBA48bit. So the max will be < 137gig. V3 supports HD up to 137gig. This old unit only has a ATA66 interface, 40 conductor cable. It will not work with a EIDE interface.

Tried all of this. I only want to install a 40GB drive so the <137 problem shouldn't even be present. The cabling is all OK, and I've tried all manner of M/s combinations. I've also switched between 15 and 16 head settings. Good tip on ATA66, I'll reconnect the Hitachi utility and reset to that level. Fingers crossed.

I have been searching for my original v3 .sup and bios upgrade files. Can't find them. I located the DELL 3.4 versions, but I'm not going to try a non-OEM upgrade until I know I have the original Snap version to drop back to.

Thanks for the help, it's much appreciated.

Nigel

blue68f100 07-09-2006 08:02 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Generally Hatichi dirves have never been a problem. Try resetting the drives back to default. While you have it connected to the pc, zero out the MBR table.

You can use dd to copy the old drive to the new. Only need the first 25 meg of the drive. Instructions are in the wiki section of the forum.

If things are not working correctly yo do not want to attempt a OS upgrade.

pjfan69 07-09-2006 03:49 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
I just acquired a Snap Server 4000 and I want to upgrade the drives from the original 4x30gb hard drives to 4x250gb hard drives. Here is the info from it

Software : 2.3.417
Hardware : 2.0.1
Bios : 2.0.282

Can the drives in it be upgraded? I know I will need to upgrade the Snap OS to get the 48bit LBA support, but I can't make heads or tails of finding the files on the snap website. Could someone possibly email me the files and some reference on how to do the upgrades if its even possible? My email address is
zakosekjohn@gmail.com

Thanks!

hugo2000 07-09-2006 10:42 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue68f100
Generally Hatichi dirves have never been a problem. Try resetting the drives back to default. While you have it connected to the pc, zero out the MBR table. You can use dd to copy the old drive to the new. Only need the first 25 meg of the drive. Instructions are in the wiki section of the forum. If things are not working correctly yo do not want to attempt a OS upgrade.

In the end I gave up, I wasted too many days going through all the permutations of getting my Snap 2000 to upgrade. But it was a good opportunity to see inside my box, clean it out (wow, all that dust!) and check the fan out. I was very impressed with how good the components all look considering it is now over 8 years old!

I think in the end the biggest problem was that it was a version 1.1 piece of hardware. It still says Meridian on the casing ($1995 when I bought it.) The only thing I didn't attempt was to cap the hard drive to 32GB and see if the Bios suffered from the old 33.8gig limitation.

I still would like a copy of the latest 3.4 OS upgrade, and related Assist and Bios upgrades. If anyone can shoot them over to me it would be much appreciated.

Thanks again for your help.

Nigel (n5 at mwpsoft.com)

2000 series
OS: 3.1.618 (US)
Hardware: 1.1.0
Bios: 1.2.180

blue68f100 07-10-2006 07:28 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
These Ealry Snaps DO NOT LIKE EIDE DRIVES. Many have had a suscesfull upgrades, with no problem. Seagates and Hatichi drives have been of the least trouble. Once you get the flashram upgraded with v3, every thing works good.

Tlester 07-18-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Hi!

I just acquired a Snap Server M4100 with an older 3.4.7X version of the firmware. I understand that there is a 3.4.80X version .sup available. I would surely like to update my exisiting unit to the latest non-4.X version. Please email me at tim@lestercentral.com if you have a copy.

I have another existing Dell Powervault 705N with 3.4.803 on it, but I don't have the .sup file.

Thanks in advance,
Tim

GruNdeL 07-18-2006 03:03 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Hey all! At the risk of sounding redundant, I'm looing for the SnapOS v3.4.805. Just acquired my 2000 and both drives are dead (actually they pretty much whine and knock loudly...) but I can access the management GUI with no problems. Removed the old drives and put in 2x 40GB and it works great. I would like to throw in some 200 or 300 GB drives but I distilled that the .803 would not detect >137. I found a bunch of great information but nowhere to download the update.

Thanks in advance if anyone's got it!


Model 2000 series
Software 3.4.803 (US)
Hardware 2.0.0
Server # 38250
BIOS 2.0.252

blue68f100 07-18-2006 05:31 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tlester
Hi!

I just acquired a Snap Server M4100 with an older 3.4.7X version of the firmware. I understand that there is a 3.4.80X version .sup available. I would surely like to update my exisiting unit to the latest non-4.X version. Please email me at tim@lestercentral.com if you have a copy.

I have another existing Dell Powervault 705N with 3.4.803 on it, but I don't have the .sup file.

Thanks in advance,
Tim

I have heard from others that the 803 version is avaliable from Adaptec web site, the new owners of SnapAppliance.

Jilaman 07-18-2006 09:22 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
can someone send me the new version. 3.4.805. I got a 4100 second hand, having some file problems, and adaptec support says it is fixed in that version. mstiger@gmail.com Thanks in advance

re3dyb0y 07-19-2006 03:18 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GruNdeL
Hey all! At the risk of sounding redundant, I'm looing for the SnapOS v3.4.805. Just acquired my 2000 and both drives are dead (actually they pretty much whine and knock loudly...) but I can access the management GUI with no problems. Removed the old drives and put in 2x 40GB and it works great. I would like to throw in some 200 or 300 GB drives but I distilled that the .803 would not detect >137. I found a bunch of great information but nowhere to download the update.

Thanks in advance if anyone's got it!


Model 2000 series
Software 3.4.803 (US)
Hardware 2.0.0
Server # 38250
BIOS 2.0.252

It could also be a hrdware limitation, but i think the V2's are fine....

blue68f100 07-19-2006 07:43 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Jilaman, What kind of problems are you having with the 4100. Because Snap never acknowledge that they have a 805 version. 805 only add LBA 48 support. Which does not apply to the 4100.

Jilaman 07-19-2006 10:25 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
I think it actually has come down to a BAD drive. I can do invidual disks, and all 4 run and format fine.. As soon as I go to create a RAID 5 Disk1 fails.


SO I think it is a bad drive.

blue68f100 07-19-2006 10:37 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
You can check disk 1 further with "co de fsck 10000 /fixfatal" cmd from debug.If this does not correct the problem the drive will need to be replaced. Snap raids are picky when it come to drives. The replacemnet must be with in 2-3 % capacity of the original. And preferably the same MFG and model. Mixing mfg some time causes problems, due to head and disk configuration.

Run "co de info" from debug and post the results. That will give me all of the vitals.

You can also look in the log and see what is being reported.

Jilaman 07-19-2006 05:13 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
here is the output from "co de info"

After deleting the configuration. But when I create a new RAID 5 Config it fails.


Code:

07/19/2006 18:27:17  Command: co de info

Logical Device: 10006      Position: 0  JBOD    Size (KB):    32296  Free (KB):    31616  Private  Mounted
  Label:Private  Contains system files only
    Unique Id: 0x0A072C5A3F7CEDF5    Mount: /priv      Index: 12  Order: 0
    Partition: 10006  Physical: 10007  FS      Size (KB):    32768  Starting Blk:  515  Private
      Physical: 10007    Drive Slot: 0  IDE      Size (KB): 97685504  Fixed   

Logical Device: 1000E      Position: 0  JBOD    Size (KB):    32296  Free (KB):    31248  Private  Mounted
  Label:Private  Contains system files only
    Unique Id: 0x3E8F360879E774B0    Mount: /pri2      Index: 13  Order: 1
    Partition: 1000E  Physical: 1000F  FS      Size (KB):    32768  Starting Blk:  515  Private
      Physical: 1000F    Drive Slot: 1  IDE      Size (KB): 134217216  Fixed   

Logical Device: 10000      Position: 1  JBOD    Size (KB): 97028936  Free (KB):        0  Public  Unmounted
  Label:Drive1  Single disk
    Unique Id: 0x0A072C5A3F7CEDF5    Mount: /0        Index: 0  Order: 255
    Partition: 10000  Physical: 10007  FS      Size (KB): 97028936  Starting Blk: 81943  Public
      Physical: 10007    Drive Slot: 0  IDE      Size (KB): 97685504  Fixed   

Logical Device: 10008      Position: 2  JBOD    Size (KB): 95702088  Free (KB): 95605992  Public  Mounted
  Label:Drive2  Single disk
    Unique Id: 0x3E8F360879E774B0    Mount: /1        Index: 1  Order: 2
    Partition: 10008  Physical: 1000F  FS      Size (KB): 97028936  Starting Blk: 88472  Public
      Physical: 1000F    Drive Slot: 1  IDE      Size (KB): 134217216  Fixed   

Logical Device: 10010      Position: 3  JBOD    Size (KB): 95702088  Free (KB): 95606112  Public  Mounted
  Label:Drive3  Single disk
    Unique Id: 0x45DDCAC8642C344D    Mount: /2        Index: 2  Order: 3
    Partition: 10010  Physical: 10017  FS      Size (KB): 97028936  Starting Blk: 88472  Public
      Physical: 10017    Drive Slot: 2  IDE      Size (KB): 134217216  Fixed   

Logical Device: 10018      Position: 4  JBOD    Size (KB): 95702088  Free (KB): 95606112  Public  Mounted
  Label:Drive4  Single Disk
    Unique Id: 0x2B57F6F71C16E85C    Mount: /3        Index: 3  Order: 4
    Partition: 10018  Physical: 1001F  FS      Size (KB): 97028936  Starting Blk: 65640  Public
      Physical: 1001F    Drive Slot: 3  IDE      Size (KB): 97685504  Fixed


blue68f100 07-19-2006 07:08 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
By looking at this, it apears you have 2 different size drives. Drives 1 and 4 are ~100 gigs, where 2 & 3 are > 137 gig. Opening the unit up will confirm. If I had to guess, drives 2 & 3 are the newer drives (larger). Try to match the capacity of these. Depending on the mfg, some have utilities where you can adjust the capacity so they match. Some users have found it was cheaper to buy higher capacity (>137) than 120 gigs. Knowing that the capacity will be capped at ~137gig.

HD capacity is rapidly changing. If you plan on using this for criticle data, purchase a spare or 2. As you know when you loose a drive in a raid 5 set the data is not lost (normaly), but can not be accesed till the missing member is replaced and the set re-built.

rpmurray 07-20-2006 10:07 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Kinda interesting that Drive 1 (drive slot 0) shows as unmounted and having Free (KB) 0. This could have something to do with RAID 5 failing. Have you tried reformatting drive 1? If this is a drive you've replaced, could you give specifics on make and model (of all the drives)?

It really looks like drive 1 has failed, do you have any others with the same or higher capacity that you could replace it with?

geewiz45 07-20-2006 10:08 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
I've scoured this forum and the internet looking for Snap_OS 3.4.805 and while it apparently existed at some point, it's apparently turned into some sort of mythical beast like Bigfoot and walked off into the forest, never to be seen again.

I've got a Snap 4100 that I'd like to upgrade with some 250GB drives. If anyone has the 3.4.805 OS, I would certainly appreciate hearing from them and perhaps getting a copy.

Mucho thanks in advance...

rpmurray 07-20-2006 10:12 AM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geewiz45
I've got a Snap 4100 that I'd like to upgrade with some 250GB drives. If anyone has the 3.4.805 OS, I would certainly appreciate hearing from them and perhaps getting a copy.

Sorry, you'll be able to use the drives, but they'll format at 137GB due to hardware limitations in the 4100. So whatever version of the OS you have right now should work with them.

geewiz45 07-20-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Dang....My first post and I already screwed up. I've got a 4000, not a 4100. According to the "Succesful Upgrades" page, this is possible??

http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php...Drive_Upgrades

Again, thanks in advance.

re3dyb0y 07-20-2006 01:53 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Yup

You'd be right :D

well, depending on hard drive

geewiz45 07-20-2006 03:10 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Depending on the HD? I've got 4 250GB Maxtor MaXline III's in the chassis right now. I haven't seen anything, anywhere indicating that the type of HD makes a difference only that the OS must be 3.4.805. If that's not the case, I'd appreciate it if you'd clarify that for me. Otherwise, I've got a Snap server with 4 250GB drives pretending to be 137GB.

If you have any idea about places I could get the OS, I'd appreciate that too. Feel free to email.

Thanks,
Greg

blue68f100 07-20-2006 03:24 PM

Re: Snap OS 3.4.805, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geewiz45
Dang....My first post and I already screwed up. I've got a 4000, not a 4100. According to the "Succesful Upgrades" page, this is possible??

http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php...Drive_Upgrades

Again, thanks in advance.

On the 4x00 models you have to go by what the Name plate says. Snap software reports all 4 drive units as a 4000.


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