I wouldn't chase that too far, many possibilities

yea, thats what I'm saying. Large consumption of drugs doesn't neccisarely mean youre gunna do bad in school.

...this thread is STILL here !?!?!!

It becomes more complex when we consider drugs not as recreational but as mind altering.

Personally, I've always feared the recreational appeal of drugs. Good times blur into escape blur into full addiction living and dying for a fix. It's all about feeling good artificially.

I've used drugs as a tourist might use the Aurora Borealis or the Auschwitz Memorial. For experience. I think a lot of people could be improved by having their assumptions capsized, occasionally, gaining fresh perspective so they don't take themselves too seriously or keep plowing the same mental rut. Sometimes drugs can make you see yourself in a new light. But at what point in a person's life is this most useful? Before collage, marriage, children. Before committing to a path through adulthood. Is it a coincidence that's when people are statistically most likely to (naturally) flip out anyway?

On the other hand this is when mind-expanding drugs could do the most harm to those at risk.

I smoke daily, it has no effect on my schooling at all.

I could sit here and argue about the benefits and give lots of information on the plant and its by-products but I don't feel like it.
:D
Damn weed has goten me lazy and making speel bad!

here are some good sources of information.
www.erowid.org
www.overgrow.com

hey guys.

hehe where to start?

there have been a lot of intelligent posts about the benefits of marijuana, arguments why its not dangerous, why its not a threat and arguments against all those broken record arguments saying its bad for various reasons.

in a way i respect you guys for trying to open the minds of people who are trying to criminalize things they are not interested in, and get them to think about things in an objective way etc etc.
blah blah blah

personally i dont care.

if someone says to me "you cant smoke that plant" i say "f*** you" and i light up.
if i have to dodge the cops when im carrying a joint, it wouldn't be the first time.
things are the way they are, and i'm not gonna campaign to try and educate or change the minds of people who i believe are wrong. all i need to know, is they are encroaching on my freedom, and i'm able to defy them.

if theres a poll, ill cast my vote, but really, this thread is 9 pages long or whatever, its not worth my effort. im not trying to convince you guys that my way is the right way, but i wouldnt loose any sleep over trying to convince people to allow you to smoke weed. its not nice having crap laws sure, but it wouldnt be the first time there was an injustice.

assuming this thread is important to you, (which it seems to be)
as a suggestion, if u really wanted a constructive discussion, maybe you could have each argument for and against ganja in a list, and a mark next to it saying whether it has been proved true or false, whether it was decided so, by a couple of people, a judge or two, whatever. and the weight of that point. eg: marijuana can provide wood, weight of this point: rainforests no longer need to be cut down. and then you could click that item, and it would list counter arguments to that point, and whatever evidence there is on either side. etc etc.
its a complicated debate, marijuana certainly affects many things, just as alcohol, tobacco, fast food, television would affect someones life.
(moral issues aside, just looking at each one as an activity, and a thing which affects a person, their health, quality of life, motivation, achievements)
its not obviously harmful just as rape, murder, theft etc is,
"thou shalt not smoke weed" was not in the 10 commandments.
to decide whether it should be allowed or not is playing god in a way, its extremely hard if not impossible to know what the full implications of people making a law about a thing like this are... if you outlaw weed, why not outlaw other stuff which can have negative effects if abused, or used too much where do u draw the line?
making stuff like that illegal is simply playing god imo.
wheres my post going? not even i know :)

my advice if anyone wants it:
to the pro marijuana people:
do what you want and dont worry who approves or disapproves.

to the anti marijuana people
worry about your own life. and dont come with that driving under the influence crap, you know its a load of bullshit.

that came out sounding more aggresive than intended :/
life is too short to argue over crap. be merry.

peace

I agree. I could care less for others' aproval.

But when their disaproval can lead to an all expense paid trip for me to the ass rape motel, thats a different story.

ok i told myself i wouldnt get involved, but i cant resist.
the biggest argument against marijuana is that its unhealthy.
(thats what i hear the most at least)

now maybe the morons repeating this argument have not seen supersize me or just dont think about what they say...
the guy ate macdonalds 3x a day and started dieing.
his doctor told him he was going to die if he carried on eating macdonalds.

now, you can smoke weed (and this is the unhealthiest way to take it) 3x a day for months, and there will be no easily noticable effect on your health after you've sobered up, aside from your lungs, but its pretty obvious that ur lungs aren't gonna be happy.

and there isn't even a stigma about eating fast food! yet it kills you in a little over 30 days! the effects are drastic.

should we send people to get ass raped for eating a burger?

ok heres another one (haha i cant resist)
"when marijuana is legal, theres a good chance someone will DUI and kill me"

hows this, "if being tired and not going to sleep immediately is legal then theres a good chance someone will fall asleep at the wheel and kill me"

"if any type of medication which can impair driving skills is legal then blah blah blah"

"if leaving your house with a broken foot is legal theres a good chance someone might drive with a broken foot and mess up and kill me"

"if people with tourets syndrome are allowed to walk around freely theres a good chance one of them will drive a car and kill me"
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

It needn't be so black and white as legal/illegal. The debate in Canada is about how best to regulate marijuana. As we did alcohol, porn, tobacco, vehicle emissions, and, through exemption from sales tax, even items like milk, condoms, soap.

Over here we're now planning to attack junk foods with the same kind of social engineering that was so successful against tobacco in this country: mandatory health warning labels on the wrappers (in full colour graphic), special taxes (earmarked for health care), TV ads and school materials, and so forth.

Eventually we'll have to give highschool staff some realistic guidance on the issue of marijuana. We'll have to decide which beaches you can smoke marijuana at, or when, and post the signs. It's here to stay and we may as well face it.

I'd see this thread drop the false choice of legal or illegal. Regulation is the real issue now.

i agree 100% with you

Wow, It seems that marijuana is pretty important to alot of people. It just warms my heart that everyone can contribute so much. Keep up the good work and don't let this die.

Marijuana-what is it good for? :0


That question is easy!!
It's for smoking, vaporizing and eating!

And growing. Don't forget growing.

IMO growing is WAAAAYYYYY more addictive than consuming

This THREAD have been dead since 2003 but ill add this much how many crack heads started by drinking beer first and smoking cigarrarets . and also i well add this much too i dont exactly remenber the first time i smoke pot . "early 70s" But i sure as hell well never forget how sick and vomiting was my first cigarret was. .......and still is.

Look at ti this way. Weed can't make you do anything. It wont make you a loser if you smoke it, or vice versa. IMO, it's like money. Whatever you are, it will make you that more so.

For example, if you are an asshole by nature, it wont matter if you're poor or rich, you will still be an ass hole. Just if your rich, you will probably be a bigger asshole than you would have been otherwise.

Weed is similar. If you are a lazy good-for-nothing, you will be a lazy good-for-nothing weather you smoke or not. Just, if you do smoke, you will be more lazy and good for even less.

However, the same holds true if you are a hard worker and smart. If you are a hard worker, and are on track, smoking a little reefer here and there will not hurt you at all. If anything, it will make you better.

However, the only person that is qualified to say if you are a lazy bastard or a hard worker is you. It is not the governments job to protect you from dumb ass decisions. If you feel that weed is for you, then you should be free to make that choice. It is the government's job to provide you with the facts, and let you make the decision. By making weed illigal, the government can't possibly provide the people with honest facts, thus by keeping weed illigal, it is derilecting its duty to the people.







On a side note, since we are talking about legalization, I just found out that Russia has recently decriminalized posession of pretty much every soft drug up to 10 doses (anthing over 10 doses, and your still a bad guy). This is pretty cool, because up to now, Russia had some of the most draconian drug laws on the books.

let me reitterate...this thread is STILL here!?!?!1

Uhhhhhh
 

forgot what we were talking about.....

I figured I'd add something to this thread. I knew a guy who went to UNC Chapel Hill on a full ride (he played golf). For extra cash he started selling dope and printing counterfeit cash. When he was under investigation for counterfeiting he consented to a search of his car... which was where he was hiding his stash of dope. Guess he was using too much of his own product.

well, he did 2 dumb things. He counterfitted cash and he consented to a search.

intresting article.
http://boulderweekly.com/waynesword.html

if anyone thinks that drugs are cool, then you really are retarded.
(or at least going to be)

Jesus christ you know just how to bring a conversation down to a grade school level. thanks dumb shit.

joe F*** OFF AND STOP FALLOWING ME AROUND ON EVERY POST SON OF A BITCH.

i'm sure mr. wing is the least retarded of all... =)

yea, right on, wing.

Can you really think of anyone more stupid or retarded than Richard Feynman, Douglas Adams, George Washington, Thomas Jeferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc.....


Did you know that in the early agrarian years of our country, it was a crime NOT to grow cannabis on your land?