Best CPU Block for AMD ( Affordable )
 

You opinion, the best CPU block for AMD Under $60usd would be?

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TDX

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RBX

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Maze4

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MCW6000-A

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MCW5000-A

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PolarFlo TT

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WhiteWater

www.procooling.com It's a great tool that has all the answers you are looking for.

lol I looked. I just want a poll of it.

There is no 'one answer'

You need to tell us what pump you're using.

And since when was $60 "affordable"? Hard to beat the under $30 AquaJoe wb for the budget conscious...

I got 2 WW here...
Got the last one on sale for $69 CDN :)

Well.. Afforadable to this project.

Sorry for a such broad question. If my system will narrow it down... so be it.

I will be running 2 loops, so my CPU loop will be
Mag3 > CPU Block > Fedco 2342 Single Pass HC > Res ( Acrylic Tube ) > Mag3

The 6000 beats them pretty much hands down, it is also very cheap and is quite capable of giving great performance coupled with that mag 3.

6000 seems solid. Not a bad choice really.

Or the TDX as shown to be better than the 6000 at OCers. I guess they trade spots at some point with dies larger than a TbredB.

Also considering the TDX for my Mobile XP that I will be using, but its so small.... kinda threw me off.

Would the 6000 or 6002 work better with an Eheim 1250? I wasn't quite sure exactly what the roundups meant with "low flow" pump.

Low flow meaning Eheim 1048 or Hydor L20 if Im not mistaken

So basically if I choose to keep my eheim 1250 I should go with the 6000 and 3/8" system?

I would do 1/2. Swiftec sells the 1/2 versions.

6002 should be better regardless of pump I think.

And Swiftech says the cooling is exactly the same between 3/8 and 1/2 versions. You'll end up with lower friction with 1/2 vs 3/8 hoses, but it's not clear to me that this'll make any difference.
All that said, I'd probably go with 1/2 as well - unless I was putting this into a case that was small enough that the hoses might make some restriction on airflow through the case (like a U2 server case)

Oh - and I didn't vote. Gave some thought to posting a new thread "Most useless survey question", though :)

"Oh - and I didn't vote. Gave some thought to posting a new thread "Most useless survey question", though"

really
free hype for Swiftech, but what have we learned ?

This isnt that useless. I learned something. Didnt know the 6000 was THAT decent. Im wrong.. I was going to get the TDX in the first place. The 1/2 would be more benificial to me atleast.... Using a rather large case.

So I guess 6000 is the way to go then?

Well... maybe nothing that couldn't be gotten from a more specific question - which we did eventually get to.
Hard to beat the price/performance of the 6000 though - particularly if you're using a lower flow pump. Also really nice to have all-copper (no alu so maybe no galvanic issues - depending on the rest of your system, and no lucite to wonder about.
Then there's the whole issue of base flatness. I can't measure it - didn't even know how to read one of those inferometer-type images until you mentioned it was like a topo - but I know Swiftech can read 'em. I do know to look at the reflection of 1/8" graph paper and look for wiggles/imperfections - and don't see 'em on any of the Swiftech blocks I've bought over the years (erm... well except for one I put a gouge in myself - d'oh!).

I'm not suggesting that this was the most useless poll - although anything that asks for "best" without a lot of qualifiers might be a good candidate for my list. All you get back is opinions, based on other folks' parameters of what "best" might be. I can see relying on opinions in things like movie reviews (after a while you figure out which reviewers like the same things you do) but for waterblocks or pumps or tubing. Hmmm... I dunno. Especially my opinion about such things (I've never laid hands on a TDX or a polarflo, for instance).
Ask me about movies, though :)

Well... Yeah... I know its not the best.... But its what I can get ... and what I knew of too. I know I forgot some blocks.... I even forgot to put the "Other" in the poll... Cant edit it ;)

Way to many words for such a simple question. My answer to unregistered's question? Not much. :D


I would go with the 6000 or 6002 though. To good of a block especially being the price.

Not.......

LOL, ok. Guess not then.

I always thought the 6000 was best price/preformance for what I was going to set up. (csp-750 (when i can get one) -> fedco 2342 -> 6002 -> csp-750, possible gpu block later)

But i think the whitewater would do better with a mag3 if you want to spend the extra $20.

Fairly easy to hit the 7-9LPM mark with the White Water and one of a number of reasonably priced pumps in a 1/2" setup and a heater-core style radiator. Fairly easy to even keep it in the 6-8LPM range with a GPU block added as well.

The WhiteWater is only $10 more than the MCW6000 for an Athlon XP block, but will you notice any difference? Most likely, no. And with the emphasis put on affordable, my vote goes to the MCW6000 (which is also why I bought one). The TDX and RBX are so close they're effectively the same as the Swiftech in my book. Depending upon which site you go to, the Swiftech and Dangerden blocks swich positions (I do have more faith in Procooling's tests though). But you won't see 1C difference one way or the other until you get up over 100W of heat from your CPU. Your rad and fan decisions will make more of an impact on temps than TDX vs MCW6000. Best bang for the buck goes to the MCW6000.

I have both a TDX and the MCW6000. The MCW6000 works a little better in my overclocked AMD64 system with a CPS750 pump than the TDX, but they're both very close. If you have a higher flow pump the TDX may be just as good. I like the 6000 because it's very good even at quite low flow rates and it's cheaper. Because the 6000 is not so flow rate sensitive I don't think it's going to make a noticeable difference whether you plumb with 3/8" or 1/2" ID hose, and the 3/8" is much easier to work with. Just out of curiosity I stuck an extra 7 foot section of 3/8" tubing in my system ( CSP750 pump, MCW6000, BI Pro II radiator), the back pressure went from 31" of water up to only 35", which if my pump is following the pressure/flow rate curves reduces the system from 80GPH to 70GPH. The 3/8" hose just doesn't contribute that much back pressure, going to 1/2" isn't going to buy you much, especially considering that MCW6000 thermal resistance only improves something like 4% if you double the flow rate from 60GPH to 120GPH.
The TDX performance deteriorates at lower flow rates. Get the MCW6000 and you get about the best performance you can get, plus you don't have to worry about using large hose and high power pumps if you don't want to.

not anymore heheh :) may i suggest doing a price search ;)

Holy thread resurrection Batman!

Also, I wouldn't want a block with an aluminum or poly top in my system, but that's just me.