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Coolwave Power Radiator

The new radiator is very good performance. Here is some test results for your reference.

Ambient Temp 25 C
Althon64 3000+
Gigabyte GA-K8VT800

Power Radiator Dual 12CM - 1577rpm fan
CPU 100% 36C - die
CPU Idle 31C

http://www.globalchance-pc.com/coolw.../two12cm_r.jpg
http://www.globalchance-pc.com/coolw.../one12cm_r.jpg

You know, 1 post is enough...funny how you can have the same results with 2 different rads btw..and what is your test setup?

You seem to have forgotten the test results? What you posted not only defies the laws of physics but has no real info on the radiator in question.

Looks like someone deleted the other thread.

I posted: What was tested? How?

I reported them as spam as they are.

so all new products are spam ?
what am I missing ?

that is not a rad I'm interested in, but the hubs are in the right position
- better than the competition

It is when the guy falsifies his intent with fake thread titles and starts 3 threads on the same thing in various forums instead of advertising it in the vendors forum (being he IS a vendor) were it should have been put. And with no reply all day I doubt his intention is discussion.

Better than the competition? I have yet to see any test results.

I do believe he is the mfgr looking for vendors,
that is a product for a European vendor

it is interesting, ck the fan attachment 'holes'

not disagreeing jd, kill the spam
but do not blind yourself to also the input possible even from spam

why did no one LOOK at the product ?

"Better than the competition? I have yet to see any test results."

if you were not a convert to thinking, I'd light up your sky

look at a BIX, look at this one
you need a test ?
- for the slow, put them on their side and bleed them

all clear ?

and the 'holes' need a test too ?

Here is his website: http://www.globalchance-pc.com/coolwave/ Very slow server... Remove the /coolwave/ http://www.globalchance-pc.com/

Yeah a test. Lets see why this rad is any better than a BI. Bleed? I have no problems bleeding a rad and don't care about the hole pattern either. The guy spacifically said it performs well. Whats does that mean and why did he post irrelevant numbers.

I would have to say it is better made then the BI. They added the female threaded nut to it. You will wish you had that on the BI once you twist the soldered on tube right off when screwing in a barb.

hmm, I had not connected the 2

jd, as a kit mfgr 'self bleeding' is quite important for each component (but not always attainable), and 'self bleeding' radiators never gurgle

a kit buyer has not your experience

no clue on the #s

Why would you try and screw a barb into a tube without threads?

classic jd

I never had trouble bleeding a rad before no matter what position it sat in. Maybe spacific to the BI's? I always used heater cores as soldering on barbs is pretty simple. Maybe it is because my bleed tubes always rise higher than the rad itself? Anyway I digress. Unless the topic starter has any relevant info or someone has one of these in hand I don't see any point in a discussion.

http://www.swiftnets.com/store/produ...asp?ProdID=315

ok

LOL All I can do is laugh. You really are on a roll huh.

What about this one? Not to mention the one you posted, you can't even change barb size if you wanted too and it has a cheap ass paint job. That's my point.

I believe the rads in the first pics are made in Germany.....or a copy of such.


SenC

link ?
10 characters

http://www.innovatek.de/

Close, but not quite the same. The shroud is different, with no bar across the middle. I'm not seeing any other differences. Of course, I see no reason they should be different.

Well those certainly are NOT tubes there are they as you suggested. Paint? Who cares as long as it works. Also you just destroyed your original argument against BI's by posting this BI with a soldered on nuts.

Here is the innovatek rads.:
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000...3d0a9af71.html
and
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000...3d0a9106b.html


What I found interesting was the pic attached pulled off the second link. It shows one cut open. That sure looks like all aluminum.

Thanks for the linky there AngryAl,
sorry for not providing a full-fledged post BillA, I was in a rush..... but they look so similar nonetheless

SenC.

Damn you Bill and your user friendliness! Don't you know that everyone here likes to turn their entire PC sideways and shake it repeatedly? I use a paint mixer personally...

I have always filled my systems before I mounted them in a case so I could properly shake them and get the air out of the system. But that's a pain in the ass, and NOT what someone new to wcing or buying a kit wants to see. Furthermore not many such users WILL do this. So a radiator design that more effectively clears all the air from the rad will have a bigger impact on cooling performance than any tweaks on fin density or other consideration.

I still fail understand why you need to shake the rad and what not. I never have any trouble with air stuck in the rad and I never go through such a ritual.

Anyway, are these rads aluminum or not? If so how many newbs would stick a brass barb in those holes being there seems to be some resistance against using plastic barbs around here..... And would copper/brass be better than Aluminum overall.

Also shouldn't a good professional kit be pre-filled? I know I wouldn't trust people filling their own systems if they never done it before.....

brass/copper
we've shipped lots of wet systems, so ?
think: a company with a specific need, and no time to play amateur plumber

jd
you look at your perception of DIY watercooling and presume that to be the description of all WCing apps
your stance is anti-innovation, if everything is 'good enough' for jd - where is the incentive for improvement ?

You must know something I don't then JayDee. I have only used one hc-style radiator (my single pass from the Chevy C10) that DIDN'T need to be turned on its side and shaken a bit to clear totally of air. Even the 1pass Blazer hc I use for testing benefits from a tipping to get the air out of the tank. Now I see plenty of sideways mounted HWLabs rads (dual BIMs; BIX and Pro mounted in front of cases) and clearing the tubes that are higher than the outlet of air would definitely be an issue. How can you think it wouldn't?

I believe that was my point exactly. People buy kits because they either don;t want to build their own custom system be it DIY parts or commercial or they have no clue how to do it and would rather not bother. If the kit was filled and bleed for them the better for both sides.
Your wrong here. I personally do not even like the BI series. I want a radiator that can perform as well a heater core yet is made specifically for a computer. The BI series isn't it, the innovatek series isn't it and I doubt these rads are it being the guy won't post real numbers.

I am all for innovation. But performance must be first, then all the little details like barb placement to aid in bleeding. It just seems to me the industry is going BACKWARDS not forwards.

pH, I always put the barbs up in my systems. Air naturally bleeds out being the barbs are the highest point on the rad. And my T always rises above all parts in the system. Just seems like common sense to me.
The only place air can get trapped is in the tanks.Does the tanks really aid in performance? Worst case scenario you have your rad on it's side and one of the outer most channels is filled with air and not water. First how much water would actually flow through that channel being it is on the outer part of the rad and if it was filled how much air flow would that channel get being it is on the outer parts of the rad? I do not see a significant difference in temps even if air was trapped in the rad.

And furthermore if these rads this non respondent guy posted are aluminum then that certainly is not innovative (I believe innovative to be bettering something) and I don't see how it is any better than the BI. And has anyone suggested to the one making the BI's to change the placement of the barbs for easier bleeding? I assume so.....

" I want a radiator that can perform as well a heater core yet is made specifically for a computer. The BI series isn't it"

can you spell w r o n g ?
the BI Pro series (MCR120) does beat any comparably sized 2" thick heater core at reasonable noise levels

where have you been this last month ?
you are stuck in the past, it seems you missed Cathar's rad posts

HW Labs sells direct, why should I improve my competitors' products ?

I do not believe that brass/copper rads are inherently superior to copper. Spend $350 for a Lytron rad and you'll be converted - IF performance is your thing
or spend $90 or so for a Japanese aluminum heater core

you've been 2 days with this, I'm gonna pass now

By subtraction, these apparently contradictory statements don't leave much to be desired. What is "innovation" then? Bettering "something" but, mysteriously, not just anything.