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mange_ 11-19-2002 06:52 AM

First post ;D... and a request.
 
Hi all,
i've been a lurker here now for some time, and finaly decided to register.
I can spot some of you from hardforum and various other oc-sites, and i really think what you're doing here is great. :)

Recently i learned that one of my friends has a 'CNC-mill with cad-input' (sp?) at his workplace, and he has agreed to mill me some blocks if i can come up with a cad-drawing of them.
The only problem is that i've got no experience whatsoever of making cad-drawings, and i suck at designing waterblocks...
So if any friendly soul out there have some cad-drawings of a simple high/medium-flow block i would be gratefull to have them..
What im after is blocks for the northbridge, graphicscard (geforce2), hd-blocks.. basicly everything excluding the cpu..

I understand that some, or maybe all, of you want to keep your drawings to yourself, hell.. if i made a killer waterblock i wouldn't want some kid copying your design, but maybe someone has some simply block drawings?

Im not gonna sell the blocks or something, just use for myself...

Cheers,
mange_

ChrioN 11-19-2002 03:04 PM

Are you going to start selling the blocks?

GAAH I can't delete this post! This is emberecing! (SPELL)
Please delete this post I don't wanna be a dumbhead :cry:

:D

Fixittt 11-20-2002 07:58 AM

ChrioN

U dumba$$ :)

mange_ 11-20-2002 08:05 AM

Hi fixittt,
you couldn't possibly help me out here? :)

ChrioN 11-20-2002 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
ChrioN

U dumba$$ :)

thanks! atleast i didn't become a dumbhead. :)

mange_, try the S-channel-concept. works damn good and its easy to mill.

mange_ 11-20-2002 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrioN
thanks! atleast i didn't become a dumbhead. :)

mange_, try the S-channel-concept. works damn good and its easy to mill.

Yeah thats what im gonna do, but i searched for complete cad-drawings so i wouldn't have to do it myself, but when i get the cad-program im gonna start making my own :)

dima y 11-20-2002 02:45 PM

ok i have a few cads
 
they are copper bottoms and anodized al tops bolted together with a gasket in between.

http://brn.stanford.edu/ftp/users/di...waterblock.dwg
http://brn.stanford.edu/ftp/users/di...waterblock.dwg

Fixittt 11-20-2002 02:58 PM

I could come up with some cad drawings that would make your machinist friend scratch his head. :)

Damn Im a nice guy.

Does he have an "A" axis?

mange_ 11-20-2002 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
I could come up with some cad drawings that would make your machinist friend scratch his head. :)

Damn Im a nice guy.

Does he have an "A" axis?

Don't know, i'll ask him when he returns from work.. Is there something else i should ask about the mill?

Thanks for caring :)

mange_ 11-20-2002 04:07 PM

Re: ok i have a few cads
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dima y
they are copper bottoms and anodized al tops bolted together with a gasket in between.

http://brn.stanford.edu/ftp/users/di...waterblock.dwg
http://brn.stanford.edu/ftp/users/di...waterblock.dwg

thanks! :)

mange_ 11-20-2002 06:25 PM

I asked the guy about an "a axis", and the mill does not have it. :(

Skulemate 11-20-2002 06:44 PM

:eek: :D

Damn Fixittt, that's some sense of humour... I love it.

Fixittt 11-20-2002 08:13 PM

So, do you have any ideas in mind, I am sure that I can whip something up in solid works really fast. Let me know. Also does your friend do 2d or 3d machining?

ChrioN 11-21-2002 06:53 AM

You gotto have the a-axis :D

Fixittt 11-21-2002 07:05 AM

Now I was seriouse (SP) about the A axis. Or 4th axis. It wasnt a joke.

mange_ 11-21-2002 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
Now I was seriouse (SP) about the A axis. Or 4th axis. It wasnt a joke.
Well, I asked him and he said no, gotta ask about 2D/3D today too.. What im after is basicly the maze* design for the cpu-block and some S or Z design for the chipset- and geforce2blocks in complete drawings, something that can be processed directly by the cnc-mill.. I'm not after the best performance, i want blocks that are simple to mill and easy to assemble :)
Oh, and i want 1/2" on all if that makes any difference to the cad's... :)

mange_ 11-21-2002 08:30 AM

The mill is capable of 2D/3D milling but the operator isn't so good on 3D, so 2D drawings are prefered.. What's the difference between them? :)

Skulemate 11-21-2002 09:39 AM

*sheepish grin*

And here I thought you were screwing with the new guy... shows what I know about machinging eh (though I've never heard a fourth or fifth axis referred to as the a-axis before for anything). Though, now that I think about it I can see how an extra DOF or two would be useful for the cutting head.

Fixittt 11-21-2002 12:05 PM

Now would I mess with the new guy?????? <Sheepish Grin>

But I will mess with the new guys CNC guy :) Ohh yeah. Im gonna make him think!!!!!!!!!!! And maybe even have him scrap a part or 2. can we say 32 seporate operations for a block!!!!


LOL...... Ok, ok, I see the flames coming already. so Ill take it easy on him.

Ill see what I can whip out.

RAW

ChrioN 11-21-2002 12:48 PM

[thinking loud] AAAHAA! Now I also understand what the 4th axis is there for. you could make awesome blocks! [/thinking loud]

LiquidRulez 11-22-2002 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skulemate
*sheepish grin*

And here I thought you were screwing with the new guy... shows what I know about machinging eh (though I've never heard a fourth or fifth axis referred to as the a-axis before for anything). Though, now that I think about it I can see how an extra DOF or two would be useful for the cutting head.

There's your x axis which is the side to side movement of the table or milling head assembly, and y axis which is any movement in and out of the saddle which the table sits ontop of, and z axis which is the movement of the spindle or head assembly up and down(sometimes z axis is the movement of a "knee"which is on the knee type mill.....the whole x,y assemblies sit on a moving table of sorts that traverses up and down and called the z axis).

Most other axiis reffered to in cnc controller software are a axis, b axis and c axis.They can be utilized by anything that you also want to control with motors for motion, and usually the a axis is used for a rotary table mounted on the table, that has the actual part clamped to it, for doing cuts that require the ability to cut all sides of the stock without removing,reclamping and setting up the peice again.

bigben2k 11-22-2002 10:54 AM

...and I thought A, B and C axis were rotational axis, around the X, Y and Z... Maybe I'm not too far after all!

Skulemate 11-22-2002 03:45 PM

Thanks LiquidRulez, but as a civil engineering student I am familliar with the x, y and z axes :D . I'm also generally familliar with mills as we use one to grind concrete samples in the materials lab I work at in school (for doing chloride profiles) However, as our mill is crappy and doesn't have rotation around any axis I was thrown by the a axis bit.

Fixittt 11-22-2002 04:43 PM

talk about a thread jacking!!!! whooo hoo Im good!

mange_ 11-22-2002 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
talk about a thread jacking!!!! whooo hoo Im good!
Well, things are going slow for me atm...
I managed to get access to a pc with autocad, but i'm having problems making the %¤%"¤%& program to do what i want (me=stupid?),
and since i got zero experience and knowledge in this i'm not advancing as fast as i want to :(
Tell me if i'm right here:
the mill needs some code inputed to mill the block, which is called CAM right? And the best way to do this is to do a CAD drawing and then convert it to CAM?
And here's comes the problem, i can't make anything good in CAD, and certainly not in CAM :(:(:(...

utabintarbo 11-22-2002 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mange_
...

And here's comes the problem, i can't make anything good in CAD, and certainly not in CAM :(:(:(...

Well, can you draw a pretty picture in M$ Paint? Then maybe some nice person can help you out...

Bob

LiquidRulez 11-24-2002 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigben2k
...and I thought A, B and C axis were rotational axis, around the X, Y and Z... Maybe I'm not too far after all!
Like I said BigBen2K, A,B,C axiis can be whatever else that you want to control movement precisely with, the only limits are your imagination and your mechanical abilities to impliment the idea.

Sorry if I came off as a smarty, but I thought that it should be clearly stated exactly what the axiis were, for the newbies' sake.


MANGE_..........What exactly are you looking for in a design? I can whip something up if you give me an idea of what you want. And maybe even include the code for the machining if you'd tell me what format your friends machine uses.


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