Dangerden TDX
 

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...hreadid=292859

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crappy forum software, won't let me edit the title

DD TDX

here we go again.
 

what?
No TDi ? ;)

Was expected.
Matter of time actually.


yet another block for phaestus...

Well they sent one to BrianS a good while ago to play with but I haven't seen one in person. It's the same design internally as the RBX but turned sideways so that one inlet is possible. It is also a bit wider on the base so hopefully those mounting issues (you remember the BS ones) have been addressed. It's in my opinion a nice design change from the RBX. I recall morphling1 did the same thing with his whitewater type block to avoid 3 barb design.

Brian is going to e-mail DD and see if it's ok to post more pics and comments.

I hope we can release more information, but I'm waiting for an approval from DangerDen. They've been good to us in the past, and I hope it was just someone leaking pics without permission.

apparently pic was from Swedish retailer:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=34454

So there you have it

If that's the case, then it reminds me more of Volenti's rotated implementation. morphling1's block still had the "horizontal" path to the fins, but just routed to a "vertically" placed outlet.

Volenti's had a "vertically" oriented set of fins (like in the TDX), but still routed to two outlets, however had he just removed one of the outlets, it would have been the same.

In the case of rectangular dies, the performance of the "White Water" design is linked to the orientation of the CPU die. It's better to "slice" the CPU up into more channels, than it is to have the channels span the length of the die. For the squared Palomino and Intel P4 dies, it doesn't really matter. For the T'Bred B and the Barton cores, there is a small gain to be had by having the orientation shown. For the A64 dies, which are "vertically" aligned, the TDX orientation will actually reduce performance.

All depends on what one is optimising for. The original orientation of the RBX (and the White Water) are more appropriately targetted for next-gen CPU die orientations.

Funny, I was thinking about Morphling1 too... Maybe he's behind it? :shrug:

Cool looking block, looks like a morphing of a few different ideas together. It will be interesting finding out how it performs. Its too bad the pics were leaked before they were supposed to though.

Cathar, I believe you are incorrect about either design. Many different motherboard manufacturers orient the socket in various ways... Epox and Abit are definately rotated 90 degrees.

The socket may be oriented in different ways, but the mounting of the block is always relative to the orientation of the socket.

If you look at a Socket A, oriented with the cam box at the top (i.e. rotate the motherboard if needed), then mounting locations for a block are always consistent relative to SocketA's orientation, and the orientation of the CPU is always consistent relative to the Socket A orientation.

My statements above hold.

I personally feel that the wider base and 2 barb design offset any performance losses that might arise from the orientation of the channels. This looks like a pretty good block to me on the whole.

I like the look of it.

Two barbs are easier to work with.

Still be interesting to see how well it works.

http://forums.pimprig.com/showthread.php?t=16824
Here is another thread with more pictures in it. Yeah, I know you don't like pimprig but there are more pictures.

Well there you go... with the interior picture on page 2 of that thread, all design questions have been answered.

Looks nice, smaller and more functional then the RBX. Never liked the 1in 2out blocks :)

OK, I've been given permission from Dennis at Dangerden to comment and post pics. So, here are some pics I've had laying around. I can post more pics on request. Note that I have a prototype and not the final production item.

small pic

Larger but blurry pic

Huge pic showing view of interior

I haven't taken any pics of the interior yet, but I can.

Here is another pic:

Large pic of S-RBX and TDX bases

The TDX has a wider base, which makes mounting easier. I can appreciate that a lot since I have a 270 degree turn on tubing runs going to the block (my radiator and pump are behind the motherboard). Wider base -> more stable.

So I see Dangerden is making silver blocks now... Any ideas on pricing?
Also... the TDX.. the silver one is going to be the STDx :p ?

Brian, is that an UV top?
bring on the bling bling.

I like that... I never liked the RBX (shape, obvious mounting flaw) but this could turn my head and make me get one for my Athlon64 (in the future.)

Oh dam! looks like iknow where my tax return is going, atleast some of it
SILVER TDX haha, cute joke btw, STDx
that Silver RBX looks enticing though.
we'll see soon i guess then eh?
Brians got any eta times for release dates or are they playing hype hype release at end of summer game? Reminds me of the Geforce 4 days. What was that 2 summers ago?

TerraMex:
You know, I didn't even check to see if the top was UV reactive. I'll have to check that out tonight. I don't have UV cathodes in any of my rigs since I'm more focused on quiet cooling, metal working and electronics than bling bling. I'm a disgrace to the community.

Varsis:
DangerDen has had the Silver RBX on sale for a while. They actually showed it as part of a package deal for a TechTV show. As for a silver TDX... I don't know if they'll make one for general sale, but I know that the TDX designer got one. If you waved enough money under their noses, I bet they'd make you one even if it isn't in their official price list.

I don't remember if an official release date has been set yet.

Dont say that :) .
Me neither. The only cathode i have is a white one for internal service ... but it's like, handy (how's that for an excuse?). Not even a small window on my rigs.

Whenever i see windows on computers i think about that mytical phrase:
"Whoo, you have a processor on your computer. I only have a gerbil on a wheel..."

Brian,

Just how thick is the plexi top on this block, and is it polycarbonate or acrylic or...........?

I can give you guys another very preliminary look at one of the production TDX blocks:

http://phaestus.procooling.com/temp/tdx_1.gif

Blackeagle, sorry that it took so long to get back to you.

The block top is acrylic and it is about 0.33" thick. Yes, that's an odd thickness, but it is either flycut down, or it came that way.

Pictures
 

Internal shots a little blurry my apologies.

http://www.procooling.com/~phaestus/TDX

Any details on this things performance and when it'll be released?

Performance is now known (to me).
I shall not say anything publicly until Dangerden makes an official product announcement. As for when that will be? Perhaps a relevant quote from www.dangerden.com:

"Stay tuned to Danger Den...This Friday there will be a new product announcement!"

CPU Killer has given permission for those who have tested to give reviews pH :D

http://forums.pimprig.com/showthread.php?t=16824&page=1