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Myth 07-13-2004 01:27 PM

Presureized water cooling?
 
Hi

Just had a thought..

Would running a type of water cooling setup under pressure be possible? If water was at eg. 2 bar would it absorb more heat at the head and release more in the rad?

Forget it! i saw the flaw.. i'm just a bit too tired to be allowed near the keyboard tonight!

jlrii 07-13-2004 03:21 PM

No gains for running under pressure as it does not effect the thermal properties at all..

berg 07-13-2004 04:46 PM

U sure about that??
- I have seen people report good results from pressurizing their system with about 2 bar. Dont know the technical reasons, but it seems to do something. Planning to try it myself at some point..

redleader 07-13-2004 06:39 PM

Water is basically uncompressible, so i doubt it would have any affect at all. If anything it might just force more air into solution with the water.

greenman100 07-13-2004 08:14 PM

delta P(ressure) is important, will not change if sys is pressureized

bobkoure 07-13-2004 10:13 PM

Pressure is important if you're cooling something hot enough to flash-boil water. Even small bubbles of steam can be bad as they insulate - and increasing pressure increases the boiling point.

I don't think we're cooling anything in our PCs that's hot enough for this to be necessary. Not a bad idea for your car, though (assuming it's water-cooled).

Bob

myv65 07-14-2004 09:10 PM

There is one potential benefit, but rarely would it apply. If you have a cavitation problem with your pump then raising the overall system pressure will tend to eliminate it. Since cavitation doesn't happen too often in PC systems, I wouldn't recommend it. The only harm in trying is the added potential for a leak, so if you're OK with that then by all means give it a go and report back.

greenman100 07-14-2004 09:22 PM

heatercoreswill bust at anything over 20-25psi, making pressurizing a computer or car system a poor choice

jaydee 07-14-2004 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenman100
heatercoreswill bust at anything over 20-25psi, making pressurizing a computer or car system a poor choice

Could use a oil cooler with solid copper pipe.

greenman100 07-14-2004 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaydee116
Could use a oil cooler with solid copper pipe.

at what benefit?

jaydee 07-14-2004 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenman100
at what benefit?

Copper pipe will withstand 25+ psi?

bobkoure 07-14-2004 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenman100
...pressurizing a... car system a poor choice

But they are pressurized - at least a bit.

LPorc 07-14-2004 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaydee116
Copper pipe will withstand 25+ psi?

Heck, soft copper tubing, 1/2 ID .035" wall is rated at 618 psi @ 100F, so I think the answer is a resounding yes!

However, the JOINTS we sweat, and barbs, and tubing and stuff is much less.

Mars 07-19-2004 03:07 PM

You won't benefit from pressurizing the system. The only reason you need to pressurize a system is if you want to increase the boiling point.

For every 1psi you add to a sealed system you increase the boiling point 3deg.

That is why Car radiators have a pressure cap.


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