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joeyek 10-04-2004 08:53 PM

Can the MCW6002A w/step base fit the K8 socket
 
Just like the tiltle, can it fit K8 with a SK8-kit from Swiftech? I guess the only issue is too much force spring, so is it necessary to replace another spring?

Bio-Hazard 10-04-2004 11:23 PM

Swiftech says no, you need the flat base block.

http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcw6002.asp

PieEyedPiper 10-04-2004 11:47 PM

thats terrible.
surely theres a way, i just can't see why not. the core doesnt touch the stepped part does it?

joeyek 10-05-2004 09:32 AM

The only diff between the stepped one and non-stepped one should be the thickness of the waterblock, diff thickness and the same spring results in the diff spring force, the stepped base has a little thicker, so when applying a SK-8 kit it should add the pressure to the block,then to the core. But with the protection of the IHS of K8, it should be safe. Or we can replace another softer spring applying same force. All of above is only guess, there must be someone have experience on it. Who would give me an answer?

BillA 10-05-2004 10:07 AM

Swiftech wbs and hsfs cover the entire IHS, by design
all total bp thicknesses are the same
compatibility/upgradability of the 6000 series are given on the site

if something is incorrect please DO let us know (via the HELP e-mail addy)

joeyek 10-05-2004 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered
Swiftech wbs and hsfs cover the entire IHS, by design
all total bp thicknesses are the same
compatibility/upgradability of the 6000 series are given on the site

if something is incorrect please DO let us know (via the HELP e-mail addy)

Bill so you mean sk-8 kit cann't change 6002A to a K8 platform? Actually I am using a 6002A, just wonder its future on a K8? thz in advance!

BillA 10-05-2004 12:12 PM

all on the site: www.swiftnets.com

Bio-Hazard 10-05-2004 12:16 PM

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As a wild guess I would say that because of the heat spreader size on the A64 CPUs the 6002A block with the step won't make full contact with the spreader because of the missing area caused by the step.

joeyek 10-05-2004 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bio-Hazard
As a wild guess I would say that because of the heat spreader size on the A64 CPUs the 6002A block with the step won't make full contact with the spreader because of the missing area caused by the step.

that sounds good if your guess is right! Although the IHS exceed the coverage of the base of 6002A, the actual die area does not.

threeputt 10-05-2004 02:05 PM

What about A64-m? No IHS, no prob?

BillA 10-05-2004 02:07 PM

ya got me, don't know the answer to that one

Gabe will sort through this when he is back next week

Bio-Hazard 10-05-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeyek
that sounds good if your guess is right! Although the IHS exceed the coverage of the base of 6002A, the actual die area does not.

Well, from the measurements and info from AMDs web site and Swiftechs site, the diagram is fairly close given that the water block is centered on the A64 where is off center on the XP. I don't have a A64 to try it out but I do have the 6002A. I wish the 6002A did fit on the A64 as I'm upgrading soon and really don't feel like buying a new block.

PieEyedPiper 10-05-2004 06:52 PM

I'm a believer.
of course it has to be done and photographed for proof...but the way I see it, a mobile chip would not suffer from mal-contact between the die and wb base. Not only that though, I believe that since the IHS on regular chip a64 chips, is highly exsagerated for protective purposes and not cooling ability - having 1mm along the side of the IHS not in contact with the wb base would hardly be detrimental.
correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just going by application of the p4 heatspreader..i believe that the heat is centralized, and hardly even gets to the outer edges of the IHS.

BillA 10-05-2004 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered
Swiftech wbs and hsfs cover the entire IHS, by design
. . . . .

that is the position

PieEyedPiper 10-05-2004 07:04 PM

understandable, I can easily see why it would not be officially endorsed.
though i still think it would work for someone inclined enough to try.


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