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jaydee 03-06-2005 12:38 PM

R-Type 2
 
I had some free time this weekend with my mill. The mill is rough shape. I tried making a new mini pin block but the effort was futile. So instead I dug out the Lumpy Channel base (the top got destroyed by USPS) and decided to make the R-Type 2 out of it. This time I designed a new top with a Center inlet with a jet.

This is a pic of the original base:
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/010/001.jpg
Here is a pic of the modified base:
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/rtype2/003.jpg

As you can see I milled in the pins and removed a row of pins on both sides of the block. I felt those were mothing more than unnessary restrictions.

Here is a pic of the new all copper top peice:
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/rtype2/002.jpg

And here is a pic with top in place:
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/rtype2/004.jpg


Next step is a trip to the hardware store for some copper connectors to solder on and some more screws.

killernoodle 03-06-2005 02:42 PM

Lookin pretty sweet from here.

DryFire 03-06-2005 02:50 PM

wonder how it performs. looks good to me too.

Susquehannock 03-06-2005 03:59 PM

Cool, the millwork reminds me of the old days. :)

jaydee 03-06-2005 10:26 PM

Barbs soldered on and screws in. Block is complete. Now to find something to install it on... :D

http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/rtype2/005.jpg
http://www.customcooledpc.com/myWB/rtype2/006.jpg

JFettig 03-06-2005 10:42 PM

Lookin good all untill you gooped those pipe fittings on;)

I wonder if what gave you that nice performance was the base thickness, kinda hard to compare.

Jon

jaydee 03-06-2005 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFettig
Lookin good all untill you gooped those pipe fittings on;)

I wonder if what gave you that nice performance was the base thickness, kinda hard to compare.

Jon

LOL, yeah still working on the soldering technique. :D

Indeed on the base thickness. If I get back to the mill I want to make a second one with the previous R-Type specs with the same top as this one. I belive the center inlet with the nozzel should make up for base place thickness and maybe more. pH still has my original R-Type unless he got rid of it. Once he gets his revised bench up I got about 10lbs of copper to send his way. :D

superart 03-06-2005 11:19 PM

hehe, looks like that watercooling monkey on your back is calling again.

Have you thought of making the jet another piece, so as to be able to switch it out and custmize it better.

jaydee 03-06-2005 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superart
hehe, looks like that watercooling monkey on your back is calling again.

Have you thought of making the jet another piece, so as to be able to switch it out and custmize it better.

Yeah, boared off my ass more than anything though. Not much else better to do. :cool:

Yes it crossed my mind and done it on the Project X block. The top is just 1/8" copper plate though. Be just as easy to make new tops with different jet designs.

Setting up my test bench now. Hope the mobo still works. Got a Die Sim in the works but long way off on that.

Susquehannock 03-07-2005 01:51 AM

Looks good. Nice to see some work like this since I'm thinking about making my
own waterblock too.

Agree about the pipe fittings though. Would have been nice to see a round "O ring" type
channel for them to sit in. A small fly cutter might work well for that since you have a mill.
If you plan it right you wouldn't see any solder at all. :)

jaydee 03-07-2005 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susquehannock
Looks good. Nice to see some work like this since I'm thinking about making my
own waterblock too.

Agree about the pipe fittings though. Would have been nice to see a round "O ring" type
channel for them to sit in. A small fly cutter might work well for that since you have a mill.
If you plan it right you wouldn't see any solder at all. :)

I honestly careless about looks. I have a couple ways to make a soldeless looking joint but I just choose not to spend the time doing it. Perormance over looks anyday. These are all Prototype blocks also. I don't even water cool my main computers. :D

|kbn| 03-12-2005 08:22 PM

How are the pipes soldered? just flat against the top, or do they insert into the holes? It looks like they are just flat against it...

I wouldnt imagine that being very strong (but im very tempted to do it on my blocks as it would save a LOT of effort :)
What solder do you use? standard 60/40 or lead-free solder? I could use either 60/40 or 95 Sn 4 Ag 0.5 Cu solder.. dunno which is stronger...?

jaydee 03-12-2005 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |kbn|
How are the pipes soldered? just flat against the top, or do they insert into the holes? It looks like they are just flat against it...

I wouldnt imagine that being very strong (but im very tempted to do it on my blocks as it would save a LOT of effort :)
What solder do you use? standard 60/40 or lead-free solder? I could use either 60/40 or 95 Sn 4 Ag 0.5 Cu solder.. dunno which is stronger...?

Soldered just flat to the top. The solderless looking joint I mention before I would mill a grove around each hole and solder in it.

It is PLENTY strong the way it is. In fact when pH sent back my blocks they got messed up by USPS. One of the copper barbs was cruched yet it still was solder in place. It will hold 50lbs easy.

I use lead free copper/tin mix solder.

Aviator747 03-19-2005 05:54 PM

Any stats for r-type 2 yet? Especially compared to r-type?

jaydee 03-19-2005 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aviator747
Any stats for r-type 2 yet? Especially compared to r-type?

Nothing solid. pH has the original R-Type and is not testing blocks for a while from what I gather so I am not going to send him the block for now. Here is a graph of my own half assed testing against some of my other blocks and the Maze 4. Building a better test bench and will replicate the original R-Type and test them against each other with the better test bench.
http://www.customcooledpc.com/testbench/mywbvsmaze4.jpg

jaydee 05-01-2005 07:31 PM

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My test bench has improved considerably since the last post. Anyway today I decided the see how much the center inlet with the jet helped the design. Was a little disapointed. It was interesting to learn the block is actually less restrictive WITH the jet and 2 outlets as opposed to an inlet on one side and an outlet on the other.

Edit for clarification: The No Jet reading has the inlet on one side (not in the middle) and the outlet on the other (not in the middle). The Jet reading has a jet in the middle (center inlet) and the outlets are on both sides.

Etacovda 05-01-2005 07:48 PM

two tops? or just blocked the jet inlet?

jaydee 05-01-2005 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etacovda
two tops? or just blocked the jet inlet?

Blocked the jet inlet.

jaydee 05-01-2005 10:11 PM

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And with the Maze 4 results added in....


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