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mx 10-26-2005 05:35 AM

Shroud height?
 
What's the optimal height for a fan shroud?

bobo5195 10-26-2005 05:51 AM

tricky question.

about 1.2m but you didnt want to hear that. Look at the height on thermochills and punt guess something about that probably want to make it on the larger size.

Marci 10-26-2005 08:26 AM

Thermochill Shroud depth for the PS120 range is only the depth that it is because the customer who originally asked for a shroud template specified he wanted that depth... from the one he produced, loads more contacted us asking if we could make em, so we churned em out based on that original design spec... it wasn't a calculated figure for anything other than his space requirements.

Personally I'd have gone bigger too... around 70mm from fan to core surface...

Cyco-Dude 10-26-2005 09:05 AM

that is a good question. i suppose it depends on how much space you have at your disposal? my watercooling stuff is all inside my case; my shroud is one inch deep.

how deep can you make it befor the fan is useless? unlimited? someone should make a variable shroud with a max distance something bizarre like 20 or 30 feet. get an airflow meter to see if the distance affects the fans performance.

hmm....i have a spare fan and a dead 'core....and a LOT of cardboard boxes. whats a decent airflow meter that doesn't cost too much? :D

BillA 10-26-2005 09:20 AM

Fan Engn suggests 40% of the fan dia, for larger apps
I've found that a 1/4" helps, more not noticeable re performance

absolute low noise not addressed in the above

bobo5195 10-26-2005 09:54 AM

cyco equatiosn suggest that it need not be above 1.2m so 30ft is not required but at this distance the effect of wall friction on the fan and of a fully developed velocity profile needs to be considere

I'm not sure of the info of what bill speaks but it sounds a good ball park figure as a nice minimum.

csimon 10-26-2005 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marci
Thermochill Shroud depth for the PS120 range is only the depth that it is because the customer who originally asked for a shroud template specified he wanted that depth... from the one he produced, loads more contacted us asking if we could make em, so we churned em out based on that original design spec... it wasn't a calculated figure for anything other than his space requirements.

Personally I'd have gone bigger too... around 70mm from fan to core surface...

what's the pa160 shroud depth?

Marci 10-26-2005 10:18 AM

50mm

csimon 10-26-2005 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marci
50mm

thanks marci ...and the tank depth is half of that?

Marci 10-26-2005 10:55 AM

http://www.thermochill.com/guides/pa160template.pdf

csimon 10-26-2005 11:05 AM

hmmm ...I have that pdf but the only thing missing is the tank & shroud depths. Unless I'm missing it somehow?

csimon 10-26-2005 01:38 PM

if Overall dimensions HxWxD = 214x166x50mm (90mm inc shroud).. that leaves 40 for the shroud ...*confused*

csimon 10-26-2005 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csimon
if Overall dimensions HxWxD = 214x166x50mm (90mm inc shroud).. that leaves 40 for the shroud ...*confused*

I think I have it sorted out now ...sorry for the confusion.

I'll assume that the 214x166x50 dimensions include the barbs extension.
If I go by the pdf measurements I should be safe.

So I should be ok with 206x165x40 for the rad excluding barbs and 174x165x50 for the shroud.

If I convert that to imperial measurements (16ths) I come out with:

Rad: 8-1/8" x 6-1/2" x 1-9/16"
Shroud: 6-7/8" x 6-1/2" x 1-15/16"

Thanks for your help
Sorry for the hijack
csimon

Long Haired Git 10-26-2005 10:38 PM

Seems to me this question just keeps coming up time and time again.
Maybe someone who can measure delta-T's well can also look to be able to measure dBA and do a test?
Perhaps construct a simple shroud using styrofoam that is like a foot from fan to rad, and then shave off an inch at a a time and measure the delta-T or C/W and the dBA when fan is pushing then pulling.
Suggest PA120.1 and one fan at 12v?
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