New pelt setup underway! **Pics Inside**
 

Torque is not easily translatable into PSI, since the thread material, lubrication, and bolt placement all affect the PSI number independently of the applied torque.

To be honest, I'm curious about the answer to this one as well, but I don't think there IS an easy answer.

For your case, DangerDen might have gotten a good number to use. I suggest calling them.

One very easy way to get a repeatable force is to use known springs and then measure the area inside the bolt holes (e.g. width times height if 4 bolt holes in a rectangular pattern).

With springs, the manufacturer can give you the number of pounds that will be exerted when at X amount of compression. So, you pick the equal springs that (when compressed to the same amount) will give you the PSI you need for your given area.

When you tighten as much as possible, I worry about threads stripping and TEC crushing (if you don't use a alternating pattern of tightening). Good luck!

Nice frost. :D

ohh you have 1 of thows baby res's what do you think of it? im thinking of geting 1

Yeah, wtf is that res?
I've actually never used a res, although I'm thinking of getting one of those jobs that sit right on the pump inlet.

its a swiftech item but i have yet to find a review

lets see how high your OC is with and w/o the tec!
just to see if it was worth the 150-200$

Expect as per usual... 100 to 200Mhz over straight water on CPU. 50 to 125Mhz over straight water on GPU (dependant on additional voltmods usually).

That $40 aspire psu you are using might be holding back overclocks. Not the best psu for OCing.

I still don't understand why he got better temps at 12.3 V?
Anyone explain?

TEC's have an efficiency sweet spot, usually around 70~80% of their Vmax. The higher the applied voltage, the more heat is generated by the TEC itself, with only a minimal increase in heat pumping capacity. The added heat dumped into the WC system usually offsets any theoretical gains of running at a higher voltage.

Thanks for the simple answer Robotech.

EDIT: Makes perfect sense as Vmax of the 320W pelt is 15.4 Vand 15.4V x.8= 12.3!!!!

Such an important but simple fact but i hardly ever seen it posted on a pelt FAQ section. Makes choosing pelts easier

You could probably run a resistor or variably resistor in series with the Pelt to drop the voltage even more if you wanted to experiment with that.

Well, maybe some EE guy can help more with that, but a search for your model number pelt turned up a few interesting threads, I only skimmed but in the OC one it is suggested that ~7 volts may be the peak efficiency for thermochill enterprises pelts?

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=373496

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?p=944104

Again I rather trust what robotech said.


Real info for 320 watt pelt
26 Imax 15.4V max 243.5wattage pull
Vmax of that 320 watt pelt is 15.4 V x 70-80%effieciency = 10.78-12.32 V

EDIT: I have the charts for a few months and found a link how to read the charts
http://www.overclockers.com/tips40/
Verifies the calulations and what robotech said

Example of people not understanding something and pointing out wrong info.
1) 7V or 9V is not going to get the best temps.
2) That chart for undervolting is slightly off.

I been looking at that undervolting chart for a few months already and going on forums foraging info on pelt cooling that is second rate because of people who point out wrong info or have gaps in their knowledge and can't explain stuff simply like robotech did.
I got a 226 watt pelt and 13.5 V psu to match that chart. Too bad I didn't read any info on the 70%-80% eff.

I pmed LS7 yesterday for more info on his undervolting pelts and I've read that thread from the start. Asking for a more comprhensive explanation.

Amem. The CP1-12726 has a 243.5w Qcmax when powered at a Vmax of 15.4V as stated in Thermal Enterprises own documentation.

If the undervoltage chart is suppose to reflect CP1-12726 data, it is totally in error.

I already sent the tables to bloody sorcerer. I'm not sure if he's changed it yet but tweaking is required. Those numbers come from Noob of Leet from "real-world" recorded numbers so they actually might be accurate but don't account for variation. NoL who has tons of good info on pelts but I feel those numbers are off if thermal enterprise says 15.4 Vmax


http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...highlight=pelt

Quote by ls7
"Just thought you guys would be interested in a setop with a pump. My friend(RC64 on ocforums) was "inspired" by my setup and put this together.

DD maze4
320w @5v
csp mag
BIP w/M1A @7v shrouded
Prime temps:23c
Burnk7: 28-29
Venice core 3000+ running at 2700 1.55v"

original article but has no pump
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1211/

No guarantees about the 70~80%… :) that’s just a typical value (but one I have verified during my own tinkering)

A nother huge variable that is sometimes overlooked is the water-cooling system. You can't expect a WC system that was designed for a single CPU application to work effectively with a TEC setup. To work well, it will need to be up-sized ~4X (CPU heat + TEC heat). A TEC creates a dT from one side to the other. The cooler you can keep the hot side, the cooler the cold side will run (other things being equal). So to get the most out of a TEC setup will require a very good (big radiator(s), multiple fans, lots of flow, etc) WC system (and low ambient temps don't hurt).

Edit: I also agree with what was just posted refrencing ls7's work... (for those, who think this sounds contradictory). Just to clarify: many ways to approach the task. (1) for max performance will require uber cooling system and finding the TEC's sweet spot, but (2) a very effective and much more efficient system can be made by undervolting the TEC, which will generate much less waste heat and won't require an ultimate water-cooling system. Just depends what your end goal is and how far you want to push things IMHO... :)