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[Snowman] 12-03-2007 04:31 PM

My first Waterbock.
 
Hello.

I am a first time waterblock builder.
And i have som questions.

I am going to make a pinwaterbock with W2*D2*H6mm pins and 2mm space between the pins.
the o ´s is the drillig points.

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i am going to use a 2mm drill to remove the most of the copper and the 2mm mill cutter to remove the remain.

So the block is going to have small V cones on the bottom of the block (v-v-v-v-v).

Witch gives me the best performance? save them to get more turbolens (movement), or to mill them down so i get better flow.

And the final question how thick is the best for the base (the thickness of copper between the CPU and the cooling fins)

i have a Yeong Chin YCM cnc to work with so you can be as exact you want.
thanks in advance.

Edit*
And how many 120mm rads do i need to cool a Core 2 Quad6600, 2 ATI HD2900XT, NB and mosfet?

ben333 12-03-2007 07:12 PM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
As for the block I'd say you PM jaydee. He has milled tons of them. I think a 360mm (3x120) would hold your system but don't quote me on it. You may want seperate loups.

jaydee 12-03-2007 08:31 PM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
Sounds like the same process I made this block with. http://www.procooling.com/index.php?...icles&disp=128

Base thickness depends on what kind of flow rate you are going to try. High flow rate thinner base, low flow rate thicker base.

I find about a 4mm base is pretty good over all. Any thinner and I worry about flexing on some designs.

Think surface area more than turbulence. The more copper to water surface area the better on these types of blocks.

I was thinkng the samething on the rad as ben. 1 rad that has 3 120mm fans.

[Snowman] 12-04-2007 07:29 PM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
Ok.
So if more surface i the key then i should save the drill cones.

If i remove them the area is going to be 2*2=4mm2
If i leave them i vill have a cone surface of M=pi*r*1,28=4.02mm2
Then i vill have to ad the remaning flat area of A=(2*2)-(1*1*pi)=0,85mm2

So area without a con is 4mm2
And a area with a cone is 4.87mm2

So my Core 2 quad is W40mm*D40mm so to make it symetrical i have to ad 1 row of pins, thats 40*42mm = 11row with 10 pins each.
Then i vill have to drill 310 holes
That makes the surface on the block 1509,7mm2=310*4,87
A increase of 269,7mm2 compared if it would be plainflat. (a bit bigger then your thumbnail)

And wen it coms to if its a high or low flow block.
The pins is going to be standing like this.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1033/namnlsku8.png

So the water is forcet to go around evry pin (yes im going to make a beter blueprint in autocad, paint dosint cut it :p )

I will use 1/2 (12mm) tubing thats 113mm2 through put
And i vill have 2*6*10=120mm2 in the block.

The pump is going to be a danger den 12V D5 or equal.

So my guess is that i vil have a thicknes of 4mm, but let the cons go down 0,8 mm extra.
so 3,2mm to the cone top and 4mm to the normal surface.

Dos it sound good?

[Snowman] 12-06-2007 01:15 PM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
OK Iim done with the Sketchup.
http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?i...erblocktg5.jpg
Im forcet to ha the "flowback system" its so tight around the socket :nono:

billbartuska 12-07-2007 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by [Snowman]
OK Iim done with the Sketchup.
http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?i...erblocktg5.jpg
Im forcet to ha the "flowback system" its so tight around the socket :nono:

Staggering the "pins" or fins may give you increased turbulance

jaydee 12-07-2007 08:03 AM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
Maybe an O-ring groove also. Not necessary but I sure like the convenience.

ben333 12-15-2007 09:05 AM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
any news? :)

[Snowman] 12-17-2007 02:15 AM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ben333
any news? :)

not rely.
Have started to make the NC program, but its a lot off coding left to do.
Maby in the end of the week i will have it done.

[Snowman] 01-08-2008 06:31 AM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
I have finaly got the program done.
This friday i will start milling the block 16:00 (GMT +01.00).
I will uppdate this post how the progress gos.
I have esimated the time to ~120 minutes
I cant go any faster then 50mm/m or els i will brake the drill.

[Snowman] 01-11-2008 08:06 AM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
so i have started to millte block andit lock good.
I f**k up the zero point :doh: so the first row dosent loock god but its no big problem.

[Snowman] 01-11-2008 08:27 AM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by [Snowman]
so i have started to millte block andit lock good.
I f**k up the zero point :doh: so the first row dosent loock god but its no big problem.

ok somtingis realy wrong the spedd is 1000 timesto high il have to try again later.
maby in 2 weaks.:bawling:

satanicoo 02-03-2008 06:30 PM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
More news plz :)

[Snowman] 02-10-2008 01:36 PM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
50% of the block is done.
I need 1 more day to complet it.
maby this friday.

ben333 02-10-2008 04:38 PM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
Nice :)

[Snowman] 02-15-2008 08:33 AM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
Its friday and im at work milling the block (again) :p
I hope this will go allot smother then the last time

ben333 02-15-2008 02:57 PM

Re: My first Waterbock.
 
:laugh2: Good luck and post some pics! :drool:

[Snowman] 02-16-2008 02:31 AM

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Im DONE im done with this F**KIN CPU waterblock!:mad:
I will never again try to mill with a tiny ass 2mm drill.
ondly 50% off the block is done, and i have taken so mutch time so if i workt extra insted, i coud have purchase the moste expensive Block ther is on the market.
6000 rows of code and just this one have to be wrong!
The most iritating thing is that 3 difrent CNC simulators dident se it!

any way i will try to compleat the block with a dremel, make a top and polich the surface ant try it.

But i will try to make a HDD block, with a 5mm drill the are ALLOT more stable then the 2mm.


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