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jaydee 12-30-2001 11:06 PM

Who is good to send a couple review blocks to???
 
I need someone non biased towards any other company already making water blocks/equipment. I need someone that will give
honest results and be able to write up a review properly. I will be sending someone places a Aluminum and a Copper version of my new blocks. I already have a few waiting but i would like about 10 people total.

Of course the reviewer would get to keep both blocks in trade for the review.

Any suggestions?

And why did my name get changed from Custom-Cooling to jaydee116???

Butcher 12-30-2001 11:38 PM

Joe from procooling of course! :)
Also someone (Joe prob) from overclockers.com is a good bet.

OcPunK 12-30-2001 11:48 PM

How much u gonna be selling them for?

jaydee 12-31-2001 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OcPunK
How much u gonna be selling them for?
The Aluminum version(which is the one i have been testing) will be $25 or less depending on the supplier of stock. The Copper version will be $35 or less depending on the supplier. From the phone calls i made to the suppliers I already called, it looks more like $22 for Aluminum and $32 for Copper. I really don't think it will be worth paying the extra $10 for the Copper but we will see when I get a few tested. Shipping in the US will be approx $5 USPS. That covers shipping and what ever packaging. it will be at cost though. I will not profit off of the shipping.

So we are looking at about $27 shipped for the Aluminum and $37shipped for the Copper in the US. Maybe less if I get a good deal on metal.

Also note I will be making an econo version after I get these selling. have no idea on price yet for those.

Butcher 12-31-2001 12:33 AM

Any chance you could do custom jobs? :)

jaydee 12-31-2001 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by Butcher
Any chance you could do custom jobs? :)
Maybe, If you have a drawing I can tell you if I can do it or not.

resago 12-31-2001 11:51 AM

pelt waterblock
 
think you could also make a series of pelt blocks big enough to fit 2 50mm pelts with a six bolt cold plate?

jaydee 12-31-2001 01:06 PM

Re: pelt waterblock
 
Quote:

Originally posted by resago
think you could also make a series of pelt blocks big enough to fit 2 50mm pelts with a six bolt cold plate?
I only have about 3 inches or 75mm of room to work with around the socket. I don't think there is enough room for 2 50mm side by side as that is about 4 inches. That would push the block into the Chipset cooler. With 3 inches it is already almost touching the chipset cooler. I will be modding a block to fit 1 50mm pelt and a 4 bolt cold plate though.


I also will be making a chiller that will fit 2 and 3 50mm pelts.

resago 12-31-2001 02:36 PM

what about 2 40mm pelts and a 6 bolt cold plate?

I think the center screws of a six bolt cold plate would really help dual 40mm pelt blocks.

Brad 12-31-2001 03:01 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't trust anyone other than Joe to give truely accurate results. Overclockers.com and Dansdata would be the only other ones I would think of trusting

jaydee 12-31-2001 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by resago
what about 2 40mm pelts and a 6 bolt cold plate?

I think the center screws of a six bolt cold plate would really help dual 40mm pelt blocks.

That is still 80mm then add 5mm for the center hole/bolts and it is well over the 75mm maximum. There is only so much room in there. I don't think it can be done with 2. i will look into it a little more though.

Brad 01-01-2002 12:57 AM

it has been done, I can think of 3 commercial blocks which can have 2x 40mm pelts on them

jaydee 01-01-2002 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
it has been done, I can think of 3 commercial blocks which can have 2x 40mm pelts on them
Do they have a 6 hole bolt patter though. Also I think I can do 2 40mm but it would be way off centered. The block on my website is 3" long and centered on the socket and one corner just about touches the North bridge. There is no more room to go that way, BUT that is on the Epox 8K7A so maybe other boards don't have the north bridge right there, or the socket is placed different? I will check my Abit KT7A.

Brad 01-01-2002 04:44 PM

they are all 4 bolt, but it wouldn't be too hard I think to put in another two bolts.

if your northbridge heatsink gets in the way, just remove the heatsink, file some of it off, and put it back with a nice layer of AS2, the cooling will be better and the northbridge won't get in the way

jaydee 01-01-2002 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
they are all 4 bolt, but it wouldn't be too hard I think to put in another two bolts.

if your northbridge heatsink gets in the way, just remove the heatsink, file some of it off, and put it back with a nice layer of AS2, the cooling will be better and the northbridge won't get in the way

It is not the north bridge sink itself it is the mounting tab used to keep it on.

Adding holes will not work with my block because you would be putting the holes into the channels(same with Maze 2 as far as I can tell). The only place to put them is around the outside where the mobo mounting holes are.

Brad 01-01-2002 04:52 PM

remove the mounting tabs and use AS epoxy then, that will work just fine.

Yeah, you would hit the channels, but it wouldn't be hard to modify that on a block, I am sure that DDen might think of this in a later version

jaydee 01-01-2002 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
remove the mounting tabs and use AS epoxy then, that will work just fine.

Yeah, you would hit the channels, but it wouldn't be hard to modify that on a block, I am sure that DDen might think of this in a later version

You can't put and bolts around the core of the CPU. If you modify the channel you loose your flow rate. The only place to put a bolt hole is in the middle area of the block(which is the only place it would make sense to put a hole because you can't put it through the Pelts) and it can't be anywhere near the center because that is where the core is. So the only other place is 2 holes in the middle on the outside corners. Right where my channel is.The only way to do that is to leave a 1/4" chunk left in the channels to make a hole with threads. Thats not going to happen as that is just like cutting your 1/2" hose in the middle and putting in a 1/4" splice peice in. Would defeat the purpose.

Also I will not make a block to where a customer has to modify his mobo in any way to make it fit. To many liabilities. Not to sure why any one would put morethan one pelt on anyway? You will loose most of the extra cold off to the sides of the core and just cause more condensation.

Brad 01-01-2002 06:19 PM

yeah, I mean in the middle, on the outer edges, that would provide plenty of pressure still

jaydee 01-01-2002 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
yeah, I mean in the middle, on the outer edges, that would provide plenty of pressure still
I will think about this for a while. I will have to make a whole new block design with the channels narrower. I will need alt least 1/4" in both sides for bolt holes. I will ponder it. It will only be 40mm pelts though as there is just no way 2 50's will fit.

Butcher 01-01-2002 06:59 PM

I'd like 6 bolt coldplate for dual 48mm TECs and 1/2" barbs with 3/8" NPT fittings (1/4" NPT are too narrow bore).
I'll measure my socket and such and let you know if I think it's feasible :)

jaydee 01-01-2002 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Butcher
I'd like 6 bolt coldplate for dual 48mm TECs and 1/2" barbs with 3/8" NPT fittings (1/4" NPT are too narrow bore).
I'll measure my socket and such and let you know if I think it's feasible :)

3/8" NPT will not fit on my block. To wide. I am getting 6C over room temp with 1/4" barbs anyway so what the point of bigger barbs?

Brad 01-01-2002 07:22 PM

yes, fine for just a cpu, but what about a 700w heatload? you need 3/8 or 1/2 then

phreenet 01-01-2002 08:05 PM

700W heatload? Good lord that's alot.

jaydee 01-01-2002 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
yes, fine for just a cpu, but what about a 700w heatload? you need 3/8 or 1/2 then
Where are you coming up with 700watts?

Butcher 01-01-2002 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaydee116

Where are you coming up with 700watts?

Dual 220W TECs plus 120W cpu = 840W
(15.1*23.8*2+120 = 838.76)

That's the target, I'd like a minimum of 3/8" NPT if not 1/2" onto 1/2" or larger tubing :)


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