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Pyrotechnic 04-09-2002 12:20 AM

Did your silicone tubing absorb the water wetter in your system ?
 
i'm having a hard time choosing what tubing to buy. who has silicone tubing, did it absorb all the water wetter or what ever additive you had in your coolant ?

BillA 04-09-2002 12:29 AM

it absorbed much of the color

but it still inhibits corrosion
and it still is an algaecide
which are the reasons for which I use it
(3.5gal system changed every 6 months)

Pyrotechnic 04-09-2002 12:33 AM

how much water wetter did you add per gallon ?

BillA 04-09-2002 12:42 AM

per inst on the bottle

ondaedg 04-09-2002 02:52 AM

you don't even need to poll people. Silicon tubing will absorb water wetter everytime. Makes your hoses a nice pink color =]

Kevin 04-09-2002 07:00 AM

For the record, Todd DOES prefer his hose pink. He says it accentuates his pretty dress... :)
-Kev

Cyco-Dude 04-09-2002 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ondaedg
you don't even need to poll people. Silicon tubing will absorb water wetter everytime. Makes your hoses a nice pink color =]
...will absorb the water wetter, or just the coloring? this topic has been brought up befor. i believe vinyl tubing will do the same thing. maybe tygon wont; we need more long-term testing done. if you are looking for tubing, the tygon tubing Zoson bought would be good to get (at least thats what id get if i needed tubing now).

decodeddiesel 04-09-2002 10:42 AM

I have noticed that when I use the proper ammount of Water Wetter (ie a very small concentration) the silisone does not absorb it into the walls. However when I first started water cooling and used too much I got some perdy pink tubing in my system. Also I have noted Dye-Lite does not seem to be absorbed, even in too large a concentration.

Techguy 04-09-2002 02:38 PM

I'm thinking bout getting tygon, it's not THAT expensive.
the most I can see using would be $10 feet..

be sure to get the thick wall..
some1 in pro chat was selling the thickwalled stuff yesterday (they bought 50 feet of it)

Jim 04-09-2002 05:35 PM

yeah-
My tubes are pink forever. Does Tygon (lab quality) absorb? I mixed mine according to Danger Dens instructions, 4 oz to one gallon of distilled.
Jim

Joe 04-09-2002 05:40 PM

well it does depend on the water wetter. the synthetic Redline or purple stuff seem to.

the green stuff I used in DH3 does NOT react with silicone from what I found.

UnaClocker 04-09-2002 06:05 PM

How about Royal Purple? Anyone ever try using that instead of WaterWetter with silicone? Did the hose turn purple? If it's only absorbing the coloring, the purple is a different color, maybe it doesn't absorb it..

Brad 04-10-2002 02:12 AM

what about food colouring?

what about ink from pens?

Cyco-Dude 04-11-2002 10:46 AM

how about that stuff you put in toilets to make em minty fresh?? lol

im guessing it will.......

DigitalChaos 04-11-2002 02:05 PM

i was using a piece of silicone in my system with water wetter

the tubing did turn pink

BUT i was trying to get rid of the stuff growing in my system so i started over with new tubing, and a new piece of silicone.

but this time a added alot of 91% isopropyl alcohol. maybe 1/2 cup+ to my 1/4 gallon system.

over the course of a month there was barely ANY pink in the silicone

not sure why this happened but its something to think about.

Avatar28 04-11-2002 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigitalChaos
i was using a piece of silicone in my system with water wetter

the tubing did turn pink

BUT i was trying to get rid of the stuff growing in my system so i started over with new tubing, and a new piece of silicone.

but this time a added alot of 91% isopropyl alcohol. maybe 1/2 cup+ to my 1/4 gallon system.

over the course of a month there was barely ANY pink in the silicone

not sure why this happened but its something to think about.

Alcohol is a GREAT solvent. Especially when it comes to dyes. Probably it has absorbed the dye in the water wetter and kept it out of the silicone if I had to guess about it.

DigitalChaos 04-11-2002 03:59 PM

huh? wouldnt that be just like saying the water absorbed the water wetter?

watter wetter is still in the lines.. so its still available for absorbing.

im sure that there is probably some chemistry to this.. maybe one of these chemicals is really polar, attaches itself to the other chemical, and then makes it impossible for silicone to absorb it due to repulsion or just the size of it.

wonder if this still keeps down corrosion AND temps AND bio growth.....

this is all stuff that i couldnt figure out, but if someone gave the answer i would understand :D

Avatar28 04-11-2002 05:12 PM

Well, I suspect, among other things, that it may have something to do with alcohol's hydroscopic properties. If you mix a cup of water and a cup of alcohol and shake it up well, you end up with less than 2 cups of liquid. Some of the water is held between the molecules of alcohol. Likely it has a similar effect on the dye. It probably holds the dye in solution well enough that it's more attracted to the alcohol than to the silicone.

Pyrotechnic 04-11-2002 10:39 PM

hey cool, i'll just add a bit of alcohol, it's a great biocide too, also you dont need 4oz to a gallon like the bottle says, you only need like 2oz

DigitalChaos 04-12-2002 06:55 AM

the ammount i added was a very rough estimate... i could have easily doubled the ammount of isopropyl.

so if you add alcohol to the mix.. wouldnt that basically make the mixture more dense? and at the same time wouldnt this increase performance compared to straight water?

Cyco-Dude 04-12-2002 10:55 AM

not unless alcohol has better heat transfer properties than water...

Avatar28 04-12-2002 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigitalChaos
the ammount i added was a very rough estimate... i could have easily doubled the ammount of isopropyl.

so if you add alcohol to the mix.. wouldnt that basically make the mixture more dense? and at the same time wouldnt this increase performance compared to straight water?

No and no. Alcohol is less dense than water. Additionally it doesn't have as good of a heat capacity, so you would lose some small bit of cooling capacity.

DigitalChaos 04-12-2002 12:15 PM

the ammount i added was a very rough estimate... i could have easily doubled the ammount of isopropyl.

this was a statement, not a question.. i used like 1/3-1/2 of that bottle.. hell that could be a cup of alcohol... im just sayin that using ALOT of alcohol resulted in less RedLine absorbtion...

i used small ammounts before, and that didnt do anything... you need to use alot

Cova 06-20-2002 11:34 AM

I'm using all Tygon tubing (thin-wall, but that shouldn't matter except to make it even easier to see through/see if it's absorbing anything) and when I filled the system it was distilled water + 3% water-wetter. After about 2 days of running all the fluid in the system was completly clear again, and the tubing was still clear as well. So I put a small amount more waterwetter into my fill-tube (which is my tiny res) and after about an hour of mixing (fill tube isn't part of the cooling loop) my system had a nice pink look again. I don't know where the first water-wetter went (or if it even did go somewhere, or just the color in it did), but I'm assuming that with all the copper surface area in my system and the very small volume of coolant, that I didn't have enough volume of waterwetter to coat/protect all of the surfaces from corrosion.

Anyways, no silicon in my setup, but I do seem to slowly lose waterwetter somewhere. The Tygon is still perfectly clear.

Jim 06-20-2002 06:16 PM

Yeah, I am still losing fluid with silicon tubing, haven't installed the tygon I ordered about a month ago, no time.

So you are losing fluid with TYGON as well. Sorry to hear this.

Have no clue as to why the pink disappears on you?

Jim


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