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ECUPirate 04-15-2002 11:49 PM

Switch to watercooling=dead mobo? READ THIS!
 
Problems getting your system to start after switching to watercooling? Check this out...

I just switched to watercooling. Previously, my mobo had a few issues, but nothing like this...
My system wouldn't start when I pushed the power button... I mean, NOTHING happened. I tried everything... unplugged everything but the PSU and power switch. I tried different PSUs. I even tried different switches in case my power button had broken... all to no avail.

You have to remove your Heatsink/FAN when you switch to watercooling. It turns out that my mobo has a failsafe whereby it won't boot or operate if the CPU fan comes unplugged. That's why it wouldn't respond.
I simply plugged a case fan into the CPU fan header, and everything worked just fine.

I hope this saves someone the headaches it caused me.

PS... watercooling is great.

Haddy 04-16-2002 12:06 AM

well hell u can just turn that off in the bios some where im sure

krp 04-16-2002 12:12 AM

Would be nicer still to have the rpm sensor from your RADIATOR fan plugged in to the CPU fan header... :p

OR, if Joe could arrange a Pro/Deals entry with Swissflow for their inline flow flow sensors... :D :D

One of those puppies would be a FANtaskic way to bamboozle a reluctant mobo and also give MBM a real idea of what's happening in your cooling system.
:cool:

ECUPirate 04-16-2002 12:13 AM

I'm sure you could... if you are able to boot your system.. :)

Catch 22... screwed if you don't think of the solution first.. I was about to RMA my mobo.

krp 04-16-2002 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ECUPirate
I'm sure you could... if you are able to boot your system.. :)

Catch 22... screwed if you don't think of the solution first.. I was about to RMA my mobo.

Depends on the specific mobo and/or BIOS, but I believe some of em give you a backdoor to get booted to the bios by holding down a key during powerup/POST?
:cool:

ECUPirate 04-16-2002 12:33 AM

I don't see how. There was no power to the system... or so it seemed. The PSU fan didn't budge. There was no noise, no lights, no nothing.

Haddy 04-16-2002 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ECUPirate
I don't see how. There was no power to the system... or so it seemed. The PSU fan didn't budge. There was no noise, no lights, no nothing.
cause the signial to turn on wuznt going threw to the powersupply....i wuz just saying that so u dont have to have a fan pluged in all the time

ECUPirate 04-16-2002 01:01 AM

gotcha

Brad 04-16-2002 02:27 AM

thats been known for years. you still will have fans plugged in anyway on the mobo

EMC2 04-16-2002 09:04 AM

Haddy - On a lot of the newer m/bs that feature can not be turned off in the BIOS.

ECU - be careful what you plug into the m/b fan headers. They aren't usually rated for higher current draws. If you hook up a fan(s) with too high a current requirement you can burn out the header traces on the m/b (depends on m/b and which fan connector it is).

Unless you are running a waterblock on your northbridge, easiest way is to just move the northbridge fan to the CPU fan header ;)

DigitalChaos 04-16-2002 11:22 AM

ecu- what mobo is it?.. you can turn that failsafe off, and if not then there probably is a bios update (thats how my kt7a-raid was)

ECUPirate 04-16-2002 02:31 PM

It's just a little 80mm fan. the mobo is a gigabyte ga-7dxr.

krp 04-16-2002 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EMC2
ECU - be careful what you plug into the m/b fan headers. They aren't usually rated for higher current draws. If you hook up a fan(s) with too high a current requirement you can burn out the header traces on the m/b (depends on m/b and which fan connector it is).

The trick to running high current rpm-sensor fans is to take power to actually RUN the fan from a 4-pin drive-connector off the power supply, and connect just the rpm-sensor wire to the three-pin mobo header. Use a "header saver" 4-pin-to-3-pin adaptor like this one.

ECUPirate 04-16-2002 08:47 PM

THX.. most of my 80mm fans are just 2 wire fans.. Right now, I've got my 80mm PSU fan (3 wire) plugged into the CPU header, the 92mm PSU fan plugged into my homebuilt 7/off/12v switch, and one of two panaflo 80mm fans rigged so that it blows directly onto my GF3 (I unplugged the tiny stock fan) and the other fan sitting on top of my graphics card, pointed at my northbridge. (I unplugged that tiny fan also.)
the 6.75" comair on the fad is connected to a rheostat. :) Right now, my two IBM hd's are the noisiest part of my system (by far). :( I don't know how to silence them.

Brad 04-17-2002 01:27 AM

unplug them and put in WD120's or Barracuda IV's

Haddy 04-17-2002 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
unplug them and put in WD120's or Barracuda IV's
wd120se 8mb buffer owns jur azz

Brad 04-17-2002 01:42 PM

I would sell my arse for a couple of them

Haddy 04-17-2002 05:02 PM

i would sell ur arse for a couple of those 2


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